Ignatius Donnelly

Is Wotan the Same as Odin?

In Germanic myth, the chief god appears under several dialect names. He is Odin in Old Norse, Woden in Old English, and Wotan or Wuotan on the continent.

Is Wotan the same as Odin? In the Germanic languages, yes. Those names are cognates. They name the same deity complex, not three unrelated gods.

I answer the name question first. Then I treat American Votan as a separate Mesoamerican tradition that nineteenth-century writers sometimes equated with Odin. After that I say how I use Donnelly’s Asgard and Atlantis reading as labeled interpretation, not as archaeology.

I keep those layers in separate boxes. Mixing Germanic philology, Chiapenese Votan, and Atlantis into one flat identity claim is how a name-page loses the visitor who only asked about Odin and Wotan.

Odin, Woden, and Wotan in Germanic myth

Odin is the usual English form of Old Norse Óðinn. Woden is the Old English form. Wotan and Wuotan are continental German forms. Richard Wagner later popularized Wotan in opera.

Scholars reconstruct a Proto-Germanic ancestor, Wōðanaz. Proto-Germanic is the unattested parent language behind Norse, English, and German. The name is commonly glossed as “lord of frenzy,” related to fury, inspiration, and poetry.

Cognates are words that share that kind of common ancestor. Odin, Woden, and Wotan are cognates of Wōðanaz. They are dialect names of one Germanic chief-god complex.

Everyday English still carries the name. Wednesday is Old English Wōdnesdæg, “Woden’s day.”

That weekday name is a calque. A calque is a word-for-word translation of a foreign phrase. Here it copies Latin Mercurii dies, Mercury’s day.

Parallel names appear in other Germanic languages. Dutch has woensdag. Scandinavian languages have onsdag, from Óðinn.

Local myths still vary. Roles and stories are not identical in every region. The shared name-root and cult history are what make the identity of the names the right first answer.

Ignatius Donnelly opened his 1882 chapter “The God Odin, Woden, or Wotan” in Atlantis: The Antediluvian World by stating the Germanic identity, then moving into Olympus and Atlantis:

In the Scandinavian mythology the chief god was Odin, the Woden, Wotan, or Wuotan of the Germans. He is represented with many of the attributes of the Greek god Zeus, and is supposed by some to be identical with him. He dwelt with the twelve Æsir, or gods, upon Asgard, the Norse Olympus, which arose out of Midgard, a land half-way between the regions of frost and fire (to wit, in a temperate climate). The Scandinavian Olympus was probably Atlantis.

Source: Ignatius Donnelly, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World, Part IV, Chapter IV (Sacred Texts).

What Donnelly’s first sentence states is the same Germanic yes I use for the search phrase. Odin is the Woden, Wotan, or Wuotan of the Germans.

What the rest of the paragraph adds is interpretation. He compares Odin to Zeus. He places Odin with the twelve Æsir on Asgard, the Norse home of the gods.

He then says that Norse Olympus “was probably Atlantis.” I keep that last clause as Donnelly’s claim. I do not treat it as a dig result.

The Æsir are the Norse gods of Odin’s tribe. On this site I already separate that tribe from the sea-giant Ægir on Aesir and Aegir. Midgard, in Donnelly’s wording, is the land halfway between frost and fire, a temperate middle world from which Asgard arises.

Donnelly also describes Odin as a grave elderly man with a long beard, a spear, two dogs, and two ravens. He calls him the father of poetry and the inventor of Runic writing. Norse sources more often stress the ravens Huginn and Muninn, and wolves rather than dogs. “Two dogs” is Donnelly’s wording, so I leave it as his.

How I use the Germanic layer: as the clean name answer. Wotan is the same as Odin in Germanic tradition. American Votan and Atlantis come after that, as separate labeled trails.

American Votan

A second name trail uses Votan, not Wotan.

I do not treat that figure as proven Norse Odin. American Votan is a Mesoamerican culture-hero and founder tradition. It reaches English readers mainly through colonial-era scholarship. Donnelly cites Francisco Javier Clavigero’s Historia Antigua de México (English translation, 1807, volume i.).

Clavigero tells us (“Hist. Antiq. del Messico,” Eng. trans., 1807, vol. i.) that according to the traditions of the Chiapenese there was a Votan who was the grandson of the man who built the ark to save himself and family from the Deluge; he was one of those who undertook to build the tower that should reach to heaven. The Lord ordered him to people America. “He came from the East.” He brought seven families with him. He had been preceded in America by two others, Igh and Imox. He built a great city in America called “Nachan,” City of the Serpents … from his own race, which was named Chan, a serpent. This Nachan is supposed to have been Palenque.

Source: Donnelly quoting Clavigero, same Part IV, Chapter IV.

What Clavigero, as Donnelly reports him, describes is a Chiapenese Votan. The Chiapenese are the people of Chiapas in Central America.

This Votan is grandson of the ark-builder. He takes part in the tower that should reach heaven. He is ordered to people America. He comes from the East with seven families.

Two predecessors, Igh and Imox, are already there. He founds Nachan, “City of the Serpents,” from the Chan or serpent race. Later writers take Nachan as Palenque.

That Deluge-and-ark frame is why this trail also sits near Donnelly’s flood chapters, including the destruction of Atlantis described in the deluge legends. The flood link is thematic. It is not proof that Chiapenese Votan is Norse Odin.

Donnelly adds further summary from the same trail. Votan makes four voyages to Chivim. He writes a book of deeds. He is tied to a Culebres or serpent people.

He founds tributary centers at Tulan, Mayapan, and Chiquimala. Legendary dating in that chapter places the journey in the tenth century B.C. Donnelly himself flags the Spain and Rome notes as probable interpolations.

The sound-alike Votan / Wotan invited nineteenth-century equations. That is a parallel name trail. It is not Germanic philology.

Cabrera, inside Donnelly, reads Chivim as Hivim or Givim, a Phoenician Hivite stock. He also ties Cadmus and Hermione to that snake-named people, following Ovid’s metamorphosis. I keep that as Cabrera’s speculation, not as proof. If the Phoenician and Cadmus beat is useful, it already has a home on the Phoenicians.

Donnelly also glosses Votan’s “road the Culebres had bored” with African tunnel reports: Livingstone on underground houses in Rua, and Captain Grant on a tunnel near the Kaoma. That is analogy. It is not evidence that American Votan dug those passages.

How I use this layer: as a labeled Mesoamerican founder tradition that later writers placed beside Odin under a diffusion idea. Diffusion, here, means reading similar names as signs of contact or a common older center. I do not flatten American Votan into the Germanic yes.

Old and New World name parallels

Once the two name trails sit side by side, nineteenth-century comparativists tried to join them.

Donnelly quotes Alexander von Humboldt from Vues des Cordilleras (1810, p. 148). Humboldt also cites Sir William Jones:

“We have fixed the special attention of our readers upon this Votan, or Wodan, an American who appears of the same family with the Wods or Odins of the Goths and of the people of Celtic origin. Since, according to the learned researches of Sir William Jones, Odin and Buddha are probably the same person, it is curious to see the names of Bondvar, Wodansday, and Votan designating in India, Scandinavia, and in Mexico the day of a brief period.” (“Vues des Cordilleras,” p. 148, ed. 1810.)

Source: Humboldt via Donnelly, same Part IV, Chapter IV.

What Humboldt claims is family likeness. American Votan or Wodan “appears of the same family” as the Wods or Odins of the Goths and of Celtic-origin peoples. Jones, in Humboldt’s report, treats Odin and Buddha as probably the same person. Humboldt then finds it curious that Bondvar, Wodansday, and Votan name a weekday-scale period in India, Scandinavia, and Mexico.

What that means for a name-page is limited. Curious parallels are not a demonstration that Chiapenese Votan is Norse Odin. Jones’s Odin-Buddha equation is likewise a historical research claim, not a result I treat as settled.

How I use the Humboldt line: as a dated comparative claim already native to Donnelly’s chapter. It explains why an Old World and New World section belongs on a Votan page. It does not upgrade American Votan into Germanic fact.

How I use this in my research

The Germanic claim answers the search phrase cleanly. Wotan is Odin under dialect names that go back to Wōðanaz. Wednesday still says so in ordinary English.

The American Votan trail, and Humboldt’s family-likeness sentence, are the diffusion research layer already native to this Donnelly chapter. I keep them labeled. They are nineteenth-century equations, not excavated identity.

Donnelly’s Asgard reading is the third box. He wrote that the Scandinavian Olympus was probably Atlantis.

He also tied Gothic flood legends, Krodo and Satar with Chronos and Saturn, and Baal with Bel in a Poseidon and Atlas orbit, toward a common origin that might be Atlantis. He added language links to Arabian, Cushite, Chaldean, and Phoenician tongues.

I use that as interpretation. It is not archaeology. Digs do not prove Asgard was a city on a lost Atlantic land. For location hypotheses I already keep a hub at Where was Atlantis.

A further on-site name game compares the Aesir with Anunnaki and Asura forms, and sometimes sets Enlil beside Odin. That lives on Aesir and Anunnaki. I treat it as further labeled research, not as Germanic philology.

This page matters to me as a name-identity page first. Germanic Odin, Woden, and Wotan are the same chief god. American Votan is a separate tradition that Donnelly, Humboldt, and Jones placed in a diffusion frame. Asgard as Atlantis stays Donnelly’s claim. That is why I keep the yes early, and the equations labeled.

FAQ

Is Wotan the same as Odin?
Yes in Germanic tradition. Wotan, Woden, and Odin are dialect or cognate names of the same chief god, from reconstructed Wōðanaz.

What does Woden mean?
Woden is the Old English form of the same god. The name belongs to the Wōðanaz group, commonly glossed as lord of frenzy, inspiration, and poetry. English Wednesday, Old English Wōdnesdæg, is “Woden’s day.”

Is American Votan Odin?
No as proven identity. American Votan is a separate Chiapenese founder tradition reported through Clavigero. Nineteenth-century writers such as Humboldt and Donnelly equated the names. I keep that as their claim.

Was Asgard Atlantis?
Donnelly thought it probably was. I treat “the Scandinavian Olympus was probably Atlantis” as his interpretation, not as archaeology.

How does this help Atlantis research?
The Germanic names give a clean identity answer. The American Votan trail and the Humboldt-Jones weekday parallels give labeled diffusion hooks, including Phoenician and serpent readings. I use those hooks as source-critical research, not as proof that Votan was Odin or that Asgard has been dug at Atlantis.

  1. Aesir and Aegir: Æsir as Odin’s tribe, kept distinct from Ægir.
  2. Aesir and Anunnaki: Aesir / Asura / Anunna name parallels and Enlil-Odin speculation, labeled as site research.
  3. The destruction of Atlantis described in the deluge legends: Donnelly’s flood and destruction spine beside the Votan ark-and-Deluge trail.
  4. Where was Atlantis: location hypotheses for the Asgard-as-Atlantis interpretation, kept as interpretation.
  5. The Phoenicians: soft frame for Cabrera’s Hivite / Cadmus-serpent reading of Chivim.

Published: 31 May 2024 | Updated: 1 week ago | Report Mistakes

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