Table of Contents
Chapter 1: Introduction
Aubrey Marcus: This has to go down as one of the greatest treasure hunts of all time. You may be sitting on a copy of the autobiographical scrolls of Jesus Christ written by his own pen.
Scott Wolter: Knowing what the message says, there was a part of me that was worried—really worried—that people who were very devout Christians would take offense to some of the things in here. There was a real word, and then there was the corruption of that word by the Roman emperors and the Council of Nicaea to actually maintain imperial power through a religious source instead of the overt social order they’d created.
The angel Anton came and knew my mother. This is Yeshua. So who’s Anton? What is an angel? MF and his wife Asher, called Wisdom, rebuked his brother for having led Eve to open the book and sent him out of Earth to Arcturus. Natural female mated with my uncle and got the creature with legs that crawled from the waters.
I’m not entirely human. A rupture of the small intestines was not enough to kill me. My spirit will return. So said my father. But beware—6/6/26 at 6:00 p.m. I’ll say that again: 6/6/26 at 6:00 p.m.
Scott, great to have you back.
Aubrey Marcus: It’s great to be back. Let’s get this unfinished business taken care of today.
Scott Wolter: Let’s go. You went on the wildest treasure hunt perhaps in history. If what you uncovered is really what it is, this has to go down as one of the greatest treasure hunts of all time. I can’t wait to actually receive what this information is. But first, tell us how we got here.
I know we talked about it a bit in our first podcast, but how did you get to this point where you may be sitting on an encrypted message that was a copy of the autobiographical scrolls of Jesus Christ—of Yeshua himself—written by his own pen? Wow.
Scott Wolter: Well, I’m not going to sit here and say that I know this is an authentic document. But having said that, everything about it seems to resonate with people. I’m just going to tease you and say one thing before I get into the explanation.
When we found this and after we decoded the message—this happened in August of last year—I’ve had about six months right up to the time you and I last talked to think about this. Knowing what the message says, there was a part of me that was worried, really worried, that people who were very devout Christians would take offense to some of the things in here. We can talk about that after you know what the message is.
But I have to say now that the message is out there, I have been borderline shocked that the feedback I’ve been getting from people is overwhelmingly positive. I think the reason for that is because this message does resonate with people. It certainly resonates with me.
I’ve really had not one person—maybe a couple people said, “Oh, that’s blasphemy”—because it doesn’t exactly fit what they’ve been taught. But I’ll let people decide for themselves. I certainly can have my own opinion. Obviously, Aubrey, you can have your opinion when we get there, and I’d be anxious to hear what you think—what your initial reactions are. If people listening want to ask questions, I’m happy to answer them too. I’d love to hear what they have to say.
So that’s sort of the preface for what I’m going to share with you. But let’s go back and talk a little bit about how we got here.
Chapter 2: The Journey to Discovery
Scott Wolter: I’ve been working with a guy named Don Rue, whose best friend purchased a document in 1971 that basically was the last update of all the Templar records. Over the last 20 years we’ve been working together. Bill died—Bill Jackson, his best friend—died in 2000. What he did was disseminate all these important parts of this document to his colleagues in an agency that they all worked for, with instructions upon their deaths that this material would go to Don Rue.
Why Don Rue? The reason we now know is because in one of those packages, Bill wrote a letter to this person that said, “Don was my best friend. He was the only one that took my research seriously. He’s the youngest of the Spartan personnel and he’ll probably outlive all of us.” And that’s exactly what’s happened. Don is literally the last man standing.
Aubrey Marcus: What is the Spartan personnel, real quick? Just something that I don’t think people know.
Scott Wolter: It was a private company that was hired by our military to do certain things to help keep us all safe. They were dangerous missions. It had to do with working with people that were trying to do harm to our country. Let’s just leave it at that. Don doesn’t really like me talking about it, but I can tell you I’ve read all the reports.
They killed people, and some of them died during their service. So this was not for the faint of heart type of stuff. Because they were involved in these types of missions and they worked so closely together, they literally had each other’s lives in their hands. They were very close. They took blood oaths. And that is why Bill trusted his colleagues to make sure Don got this material.
I’ve been working with Don, like I said, for the last 20 years, and it has been the most incredible ride. We’ve been out in the woods looking for things many times. We have found things most of the time. But this one trumps them all.
Last June I was giving a lecture at a conference, and while I was actually giving that lecture, Don called me. I had my phone on silent, of course, and I saw that he called. I called him back and he said, “McMasters died,” and so his estate left something for him. The things that his estate left were this map—which is upside down—of where the location of the scroll was supposed to be, and this encrypted notes here.
Now, these characters are called Feeba. Just today, Janet and I were doing a little research trying to figure out exactly which Pope Honorius it was that brought this to the Templars. Actually, we found out it wasn’t a pope. It was another person named Honorius of [name unclear—we’re still researching right now]. But this script goes back to the 13th century.
The first message on top says: “Due to increasing storms the order thinks the scroll—the Yeshua scroll—is not safe. Now we move to the mainland.”
Without going into a lot of detail, I know that this scroll was at one point buried on an island in a large lake that is depicted in this map. Something I’ll just tell you now, Aubrey, that is going to shock you probably: there’s an island right next to that island where the scroll was. And at one time, the skull of Yeshua was on that other island. Wow. It was also moved.
In any case, we’re talking about the scroll right now. And that was dated 1933 in Roman numerals.
My first thought was, “Boy, that’s going to take a lot of rain to drown that island, right?” But no—it was an allegory. It was a metaphor for events leading up to World War II and basically the rise of the Reich.
Aubrey Marcus: Yeah. Rise of the Reich. Exactly.
Scott Wolter: What a lot of people don’t know is that not only was Hitler rounding up Jews and torturing and murdering them, but he was also rounding up Freemasons. The reason for that is because in Freemasonry, if you are going to become a Knight Templar, you’ve got to start as a Mason. Not all Masons become Templars, but all Templars in certain orders are Masons. So by rounding up the Freemasons, you’re going to get the Templars too.
The reason he was doing this is because Hitler had a fascination with the Templars, with the mysteries, with the Grail. And what he knew is that some of the Templar orders had secrets. One of the secrets he was able to get information about was something called the Bell Project, which was anti-gravity technology. This is one of the secrets that the Templars had that goes all the way back to the Atlanteans and beyond, but that’s another story.
In 1934 there was supposed to be a meeting of all the extant Templar orders that still existed in Europe that had stuff. It was called the Council of Fedusi, but because of these events—the rise of the Reich—that meeting never happened. So the orders in Europe that could get out did get out, came to the United States, and hid their stuff over here. We think it includes that.
Now the second message below here basically says: “Captain Marawn repackages the scroll. Moss-covered stumps remain moss-covered. 1953.”
So apparently when they moved it to the mainland they were worried about the container it was in. Now that we know what it was in, I think I understand why they repackaged it. That’s pretty cool.
But on the back there is an invisible message. I don’t know if you can see that.
Aubrey Marcus: Mhm.
Scott Wolter: And that one says: “Captain Marawn dies 1973. Location of scroll lost to us.”
I remember when we found the invisible message, the first thing I said to myself is, “Ah, god dang it. Maybe we’re just going to have to call it off.” But then I thought about it and I go, “You know, this could be a false flag because if the wrong party got a hold of this and they decoded these messages, they would know where to look. And if they got a hold of the map, they would certainly know where to go.” But this was probably designed to curb their excitement—because it happened to me.
But I said, “I don’t want to be an 85-year-old man someday going, ‘Damn it, I wish we would have done that.’” So we went, and I’m obviously glad we did.
We took a float plane. We flew in. There was a party of four and everything was recorded. I brought these friends along to film everything, and they did that.
Chapter 3: The Search for the Scroll
Scott Wolter: First we went to the island and there were some canoes left there. This guy that flew us in flies fishermen in, and they go to this lake because there’s no roads to this lake. There’s no cabins. There’s no houses. You can hike in there but it’s a pretty good hike.
So we went over to the four stones. We read the instructions on the map. 320 degrees is an azimuth. 138 feet (42 meters). I paced it off. We started metal detecting. We got two trash pits. And then the third one was it.
Aubrey Marcus: How did you know to metal detect? Was that something that, just in the work that you’ve done, you would imagine that they would put something metal in the jar so that people who were metal detecting would be able to find it? Is that just some knowledge that you had based on other instances?
Scott Wolter: Yes. And I will tell you that about four and a half years ago, Janet and I and Don went into the Adirondacks at a location that was talked about in some other documents, and we got into an area and then we metal detected. It turned out we ended up finding a small treasure that was comprised of some Roman coins and some crosses, which I just happen to have one of the crosses right here.
Anyway, but that particular cache was marked with a pointed horseshoe that was vertical in the ground, and that’s what we hit.
To answer your question, Aubrey: because we had had success with metal detectors in the past—they had put markers there for these treasures—we assume they did the same thing here.
Now, the marker that we think they left was this 7-inch aluminum nail. Because when we were metal detecting on what would end up being where the green jar was, this is the first thing we pulled out. And then right next to it, we hit the green jar.
If you look at it, you can see there’s a metal tin can on top. I think that was what marked it. That’s what we hit. And after we pulled the nail out, we kept getting a ping. I think that’s the reason.
When we did finally open the jar—while we’re on this subject—there were eight buttons. The number eight is significant, by the way. It’s a number of the Templars. If you look at this cross, you’ll see it has eight points. All Templar crosses do. And that’s getting into the symbolic aspects.
These metal coins—or not coins—buttons were actually a big deal in the late 1800s into the early 20th century. They would be adorning clothing; it was just a fashion trend at the time. But if you look closely, you’ll see there is a knight with a shield, a mace, and a helmet. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
What I think these were inside the jar for—and I think the reason for this is if that tin can ever corroded away, this was the backup so it could be found with a metal detector. That’s my thesis and I’m sticking with it.
After we found it, of course, I went to open it and it was covered with wax. The entire top was sealed with wax. So I took this nail, I chipped it off, and then I opened it.
When I was holding the jar, it was full of sand. I ended up pouring the sand into a sample bag. The buttons fell out. The scroll went into the plastic sample bag.
Of course, being a geologist, I made a thin section of the sand. I don’t know if you can see that, but I had to identify the sand. I’m a geologist—I got to do it. I’ve got the microscopes. And it’s a quartz and feldspar sand—very fine grain, small particles, and they’re all sharply angular. They’ve been crushed. The reason they did that is that increased surface area sucks up water. And so that was put in there to keep it dry.
In fact, when I poured it in there, dust was billowing out. It was dry as a bone. And the documents were in great shape.
Now, I’ll just show you the documents quickly and then we’re going to go through it. This is page one. Page two. Page three. You can see it’s numbers. A lot of numbers. You notice how they’re continuous. There’s no word separators. There’s no punctuation. And then this is the last part. And it’s two sides.
There was one other part, and it’s this. What’s interesting is we have a message right here that was written in Italian, and this was covering the other six pages. So when we unrolled it, this came out first. And basically what this says—and I’m paraphrasing—“The power of God shines through you and around through other people.”
Chapter 4: The Power of God Within & The Intersection of Science and Spirituality
Scott Wolter: Now, the way I interpret that—and you have to understand, Aubrey, that we’ve had many encrypted messages after these 20 years. One of them had one of the messages—the longest message we have—the cipher phrase is “The power of God is within you.” And I don’t know about you, but that just sticks with me.
When we got this message that talks about the collective power of God that’s in all of us—this is my interpretation of what this says. I use the analogy: when you’re at a concert and you’re listening to your favorite songs and everybody’s vibing, that is magical. It’s powerful.
Or when you’re having a great conversation like you and I are, and the people that you connect with—your loved ones, your partner—that’s that collective consciousness that sounds like that’s the power of God right there. I don’t know. I’m just saying.
Aubrey Marcus: Amen. If you want, when a few or more are gathered, you know, I will be with you. There’s something very potent about the gathering of souls—embodied souls. And it could be a hockey game when you’re at a home game and the red light goes off and it’s an eruption of ecstasy. You can’t not be excited.
Scott Wolter: Yeah. We just watched our Wild beat the Dallas Stars the day before yesterday and we went wild. It was great. Of course it’s just—there are many different ways that it can be manifested, but that’s my interpretation of this, and I thought it was a beautiful prep for what’s to come.
On this page is also an interesting formula that obviously is scientific. People that have seen this have made comments and said things like it’s the key to quantum physics, quantum mechanics. Some people have said it’s the key to life in the universe broken down into a mathematical equation.
Now, I don’t know if that’s true. These are people’s speculations. Some people have used AI to try and they get something similar to that. But if that’s true—that the key to life in the universe, for lack of a more eloquent way of putting it, boils down to a mathematical formula—in a way, what we’re seeing here is what I like to think of as the scientific aspect of this spiritualness that we’re all trying to achieve.
But then we also have this deeply spiritual aspect. So in a way you’ve got a juxtaposition of the spiritual with the scientific, really conveying a similar message. Does that make sense?
Aubrey Marcus: Absolutely. I mean, I think it’s just different ways of expressing the truth. You know, you can express the truth through words, which will always be approximate because of the meaning we give them. The pure truth is going to be expressed in the way that the Fibonacci sequence shows up in different kingdoms of life and how all of these things have repeating patterns.
The word “father”—we often talk about God the Father. Well, “father” is “potter” in Latin, and “potter” is also the root of “pattern.” So there’s a pattern to life and the proliferation of life. Potter, pattern. That’s the mathematical side.
And then there’s the mother side, which is the feminine, which is about the beauty and the gorgeousness that’s beyond all math and it’s beyond all science. It’s just something ineffable. So yeah, it makes perfect sense to me.
Scott Wolter: That was beautifully put. And all I can tell you is wait till we get into this, because you are hitting on all cylinders, brother. Let me tell you.
You mentioned the Fibonacci sequence—that is just a perfect lead-in to what the message is, because we’re going to start with page one. What I find to be not a coincidence is the first message is okay—the second—and there’s eight lines here. The next message is numbers. There are five rows of letters in the second message. And then the last message is some strange symbols. I should say the last of the three preparatory messages before we get into the meat. But that’s three lines.
If you know anything about the Fibonacci sequence, you know when they’re rounded to whole numbers: 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, and so on.
Eight and eight and eight and 13 are two of the most sacred numbers for the Templars. Of course, 13 is the number of the goddess—the cycles of the moon.
If you study the planet Venus, as it makes its 8-year cycle, when we view it astronomically, it makes a five-pointed star. Embedded within that pentagram is the Fibonacci sequence—the key to life in the universe.
When you—and it’s funny, I ask people, “What is the most iconic symbol of our nation, of America, of the United States?” What would you say is the symbol?
Aubrey Marcus: Well, I mean, there’s eagles, stars—those are both pretty high on the list, I would say.
Scott Wolter: That five-pointed star that I just talked about—there are 50 of them on our flag, and we have red and white stripes, and there are how many of those? 13. That’s interesting. That must be a coincidence, I’m sure.
What’s interesting is as we view Venus over eight Earth years, it makes that five-pointed star that has the Fibonacci sequence embedded within it. But during that same time that we go around the sun eight times to make that five-pointed star, how many times do you think Venus goes around the sun? Remember, it’s an inner orbit and it’s moving faster. You ready?
Aubrey Marcus: I’m ready.
Scott Wolter: 13.
Aubrey Marcus: 13.
Scott Wolter: So there you have the Fibonacci sequence in the heavens with the planet Venus. And of course you mentioned the moon goddess. So that’s the number of the goddess. That number will come into play.
So let’s start. Let’s get into it. You ready?
Aubrey Marcus: Let’s go.
Scott Wolter: Okay. You got to buckle up. You got to tighten that seat belt.
Aubrey Marcus: I’m ready. I’ve been ready. Let’s go. Hey, quit teasing me, Scott.
Scott Wolter: Exactly. All right. So the first eight lines that are encrypted in the Feeba say this:
Decoded Message (First Section):
The 325-year compilation of old and new writings is not the infallible word of God but the fallible compilation of the Roman Catholic Church to support their doctrine.
Coming out of the gate with fire and bullets.
Aubrey Marcus: Yeah. Fire and bullets. Yeah.
Scott Wolter: I think this is something that a lot of us have a strong feeling about—that there was a real word and then there was the corruption of that word by the Roman emperors and the Council of Nicaea to actually maintain imperial power through a religious source instead of the overt kind of social order that they’d created. They realized that that was dying, but then they went and reached to grab onto something spiritual so they could maintain power. And that’s been successful since that time. While the Roman Empire fell, the Holy Roman Empire is still thriving.
Aubrey Marcus: Janet is sitting there going like this—fist pumping. Listen to what you’re saying. And I’m like, you nailed it. That might be the most beautiful reaction to that reading of the first part of the message. You nailed it, man. Well put.
I at 3:25 year—I knew right away it was the Council of Nicaea. And I have to say, to me, this is the most succinct, to-the-point, spot-on, correct summation of that thought. You explained it beautifully. I have nothing more to add, man. You ready for more?
Scott Wolter: Let’s go.
Chapter 5: The Five-Line Message & The Three-Line Cipher
Scott Wolter: Okay, that was eight lines. Now we’re at the five-line message that says this:
Decoded Message (Second Section):
Translated from the original Aramaic by brother Simon for the poor knights of Christ.
First off, the poor knights of Christ is what the Knights Templar were called before they were called the Templars. That was their original name.
But what bothered me about this was why “the poor Knights of Christ,” and it didn’t strike me right away. So I called Don. Don was unable to come with us because he had been in a car accident. He broke his shoulder. And so he was home and I said, “Don, why two ‘the’s?’” And he said, “It’s a tell.” And it hit me right away. Oh my god, how dumb am I?
The first “the” is saying, “Pay attention.” The poor knights of Christ is the cipher phrase for the final part of the message.
We’re talking about sacred numbers. Do you know how many letters are in that phrase? 22.
Why is 22 a sacred number? First off, that’s the number of letters in the Hebrew alphabet. But I will also say this: Do you know how many bones you have in your skull?
Aubrey Marcus: I’m going to guess 22.
Scott Wolter: You have eight in your cranium, 14 in your face—22. And do you know how many vertebrae you have in your spinal column? 33.
So my point is you have all these sacred numbers, and it all comes back to you right at the end of the day. 22 is not a coincidence, but it is the cipher phrase, and we’ll get there.
This is the last part I’m going to read to you, and man, you are going to have to tighten up when we get there even more.
The three-line message encrypted by brother Lionus for the order of the grail, 1897.
The order of the grail is interesting. Remember the Kensington Runestone, right?
Aubrey Marcus: Mhm.
Scott Wolter: This is what started my whole journey. We found a number of codes. One of the codes is the first four letters that are singled out in the Kensington Runestone inscription as you read it in sequence. The letters are G R A L. In medieval old Swedish, “gral” is “grail.” Which begs the question: is this the same order? I don’t know. Maybe. I like it. I’m going with it.
Okay. That’s the appetizers, the starters, but that’s important background information and really beautiful. So here we go.
This is the longest part. This is one, two, three—almost four full pages of the six—that we’re going to go through now.
The first thing that we got were the letters MF equals MG.
Aubrey Marcus: Help me, Aubrey. Mother, father, something grail? I don’t know.
Scott Wolter: That’s really a good guess. I’m going to say what we all came up with and agreed to, but that doesn’t mean we’re right. MF we came up with means “my father.” And later in the message we got what we thought was some confirmation of that—equals “my God.” That’s what we came up with.
Aubrey Marcus: Yeah. Yeah, that sounds good. That works for you. It works for me.
Scott Wolter: Well, let’s just go with it. But I just wanted people to know I’m not saying that’s what it is like I know something. It just made sense to our little group.
So MF equals my father equals my God. Father. Genesis 1.
Decoded Message (Main Body – Part 1):
Let us make man in our own image. Genesis chapter 1 plus 35:16. That’s what we decoded.
Let us make man in our image, in the image of God made he him. To make more, he needed a female. So Eve. They made Cain and Abel.
Cain slew Abel and MF put his mark on him—IHN. What does that mean? “In his name.” That’s what we came up with.
And banished him to Nod so none there would kill him.
But if Adam, Eve, Cain are the only people, who is in Nod?
That’s a great question, isn’t it? It’s a strong question. That’s the kind of question that gets you kicked out of Sunday school.
Well, I’m just—exactly. Yeah, you can kick me out, but answer the question. Exactly.
I love that. I just stopped and I went, “Oh my god, guys, is that what it says? That’s beautiful.”
Okay, know this: Then they were not the first people, but the first Jews. Chapter 65:2. Chapter 65:2 twice.
And the sons of MF saw the daughters of men and found them pleasing in their sight and came and knew them. And they settled in the land of Nod where Cain was sent. So their children enjoyed life for its pleasures—both male-female, male-male, and female-female.
Sounds like they’re having a good time. Sounds like homosexuality is okay—at least at this point.
This does not procreate or honor MF. So he destroyed them all. But flood nor fire succeeded.
Thus the sons and daughters of natural man filled the earth. Yet nowhere did they mate with a Jew till Elizabeth.
So they didn’t get rid of him. I don’t know how you interpret that, but my first reaction to that was “gay people are okay.”
Aubrey Marcus: Mhm. That’s how I interpret it. That’s consistent with my beliefs. So that works for me. People are again free to interpret this however they want.
Natural man filled the earth, nowhere till they mate with the Jew. What does that mean? What is different about Jews versus natural man in this context? I don’t know.
Scott Wolter: Yeah, you get into wild speculation if you start to answer that question. So I’m going to pass on the wild speculation for now.
Elizabeth we interpret to be John the Baptist’s mother. Elizabeth.
But that’s what we came up with. I think you’re going to have an opinion here real soon.
Decoded Message (Main Body – Part 2):
The angel Anton came and knew my mother. This is Yeshua.
So who’s Anton? What is an angel?
Come on, Aubrey, help me out. I mean, we’re talking—the only plausible explanation for me is that these are star beings and these are ascended, elevated, divine by their very nature. And so you could call them angel or you could call them star beings, depending on if you’re in a crystal shop in Sedona or if you’re in a church somewhere in the Midwest.
Aubrey Marcus: Well, some people have suggested that they might be extraterrestrials. That’s what I mean by star beings.
Scott Wolter: Yeah. I think we’re going to hear more about that.
Then know this: Adam and Eve could read or write. Thus the tree of life was not a tree but a book that spoke.
Any thoughts on that?
Aubrey Marcus: Well, I mean the tree of life is the encoding of divine value and the tension between those values. Like everything in the tree is an architecture of reality and how we make sense of virtue, value, and the balance and tension between these—the male and female aspects, masculine feminine. It’s not gendered in the physical form but in the gender of polarity itself. And so it’s a map for understanding consciousness, understanding reality.
Of course it’s not a real tree. It’s a way to actually understand reality. I’ve studied the tree very deeply and it’s an incredible map. There’s so much wisdom—layers and layers and layers. The surface layer is just the basic structure of it, but the deeper you go, the more insight you can gather.
So the book that spoke is us, right? Is that what you’re saying?
Scott Wolter: Yeah. I mean, this is the truth that’s in us. It’s iterated in different levels of complexity, but this is a way to understand the complexity through the symbology of these that are in the tree.
All right. Here we go.
Decoded Message (Main Body – Part 3):
The book that spoke—the fruit chapters numbered 1, 2, 3, etc.
So MF looked like man except for intelligence, hence the book to store it all.
MF and his wife Asher, called Wisdom, rebuked his brother for having led Eve to open the book and sent him out of Earth to Arcturus.
All right. I’m just saying that’s what it says. Wow.
And you know, I don’t mean to put you on the spot. Maybe we should just get through this and then, you know—in all fairness, this is a lot to absorb and there’s a lot more to come. If you have some initial reactions, I say go for it. But if you don’t want to and you want to digest it and think about it, that’s fair too.
Aubrey Marcus: Well, I mean, I’ll just say that it’s made sense to me that there was meddling with our genetics at a certain point from extraterrestrials—or what I like to call star beings. Whether they’re interdimensional or whether they’re physical—that’s still up to debate for me, but I know that interdimensional beings at the very least are real. I believe that there’s ways that we’ve had our genetics tampered with. I think that’s just a personal belief I have. I have no proof of that thing, but I think that humans have had that.
So if this was talking about a time where this process was going on and somebody—there was kind of rules and an order and a plan, and then somebody kind of overstepped and they went a little too far or they didn’t do that, and then they go back to their home in Arcturus—he’s like, “That’s too much. We’re going to send you back.” I mean, that’s kind of the flavor that I’m feeling from this.
Scott Wolter: Yeah. It’s kind of like when the kids are acting up, they get a timeout. You know, this is a timeout. I don’t know.
Yeah. It’s a lot. So we’ll keep going here.
Decoded Message (Main Body – Part 4):
…sent him out of Earth to Arcturus, but he returns when called for. Many follow him here. What of the serpent? Natural female mated with my uncle and got the creature with legs that crawled from the waters and over a long time came to be a natural man, strong and large of stature, worshiping its ancestor. A fork in the road became the snake.
You know, one piece that I can add here is when God in Genesis is punishing the snake for actually encouraging Adam and Eve to eat from the fruit of the tree of life, He says “from henceforth you will crawl on your belly.” Which means that the snake had legs.
Right? So what is a snake with legs? Well, a snake with legs is a dragon. And the punishment is to remove the legs and make it crawl on its belly. It’s transforming a dragon into a snake.
I thought that was a pretty insightful piece that I came across when I was reading Genesis. Like, oh well, this wasn’t a normal snake. The snake had legs because if from henceforth you’ll have to crawl on your belly, it means he was walking before that.
Well, I’m not a biblical scholar by any means. So I am not the person to weigh in on this deeply. I have my own ideas about things but it doesn’t come from a deep knowledge base of biblical scholarship. That’s for sure.
Another natural man and woman.
So if you follow me, whether you turn right or left, you will hear a voice behind you saying, “This is the way. Walk in it.”
So that’s the end of the encrypted part with the numbers.
And then there’s one more line and it says this in plain English: “as I am allowed to say.” And that’s what it says right there: “as I am allowed to say.”
Okay, now you got to tighten your belt. It’s already so tight there’s no more loops. We’re done. We’re cooked. And you can see that this is a line. This is another one. One, two, three, four, five, six. And there is a total of—then they just are single lines. There’s 22.
So what you have to do, Aubrey, is you make a grid system and then you put your phrase at the top—the poor knights of Christ.
This is my working sheet. I did this part and the yellows are the words, every other word. Like I said before, this is scripta continua. So you got to make the words, right? And so every other word I put in yellow so you can read it.
The way that it works is you put the phrase “the poor knights of Christ.” And then you start with the very first line of letters going this way. And then you start going through the alphabet.
Is there an A in the phrase “the poor knights of Christ”? No. Is there a B? No. Is there a C? Yes—“Christ.” C in Christ.
So then you take that first line of letters this way. You go to the C and you put it this way. And then you go D, E all the way through the alphabet. And then eventually all 22 will fill in. Then you read it this way. That’s how I decoded this.
Now, I’ve done this type of decipherment before with a cipher phrase, so it actually went pretty quickly.
Okay, he saved the best for last.
Chapter 6: The Climax – “I Not Entirely Human”
Decoded Message (Climax – The Yeshua Scroll):
I not entirely human.
A rupture of the small intestines was not enough to kill me. So the spear—everybody assumes went into his lung. I mean, I’ve heard that, right? But your small intestines comes all the way up and obviously that’s what got pierced. If this is correct, I slowed my breath and was declared dead.
My cousin of my earth father’s side had me rest in his family tomb. That’s the Talpiot Tomb. That’s what I’ve written about in my books in the past. That is the tomb of the biblical Jesus. And I think this is confirming that that’s correct.
I healed myself and my wife came and freed me. I guess he was married to Mary.
And we traveled to the north and preached a joint religion of male and female.
This doesn’t surprise me at all. I’ve been talking about the Hooked X symbol for over 20 years. It means monotheistic dualism. A single deity that has dualistic aspects—male, female, heaven and earth, good, bad, light, dark, yin-yang. The concept of opposites that keep things in balance. That’s what that Hooked X symbol means. That’s on the Runestone 22 times. That’s not a coincidence.
And so here, this is what he said he was doing. And I predicted this a long time ago. So this is validation of a lot of the research that I’ve done myself. And I didn’t know what I was doing. I was just trying to use logic. And I read this and when I read that, man, I lost it.
Yeah. But I believe it. I believe it in my heart and my soul. I know it’s right.
We bore two children, returned to Jerusalem, and finally I ascended to my father. My body returned to my cousin’s family tomb.
So this is a vessel. It’s all it is. And his spirit went to his father—his soul, whatever you want to call that life force.
Scott Wolter: Okay. Pay close attention now.
My spirit will return at the end of the sixth day, June 6, by the new counting, 2999 at 6 p.m. So said my father, but beware. 6/6/26 at 6:00 p.m. I’ll say that again. 6/6/26 at 6:00 p.m.
So, Aubrey, enlighten us.
Aubrey Marcus: Well, we’re about to be in 6/6/26. That’s in a couple weeks from now and something is going to happen at 6 p.m. But why “beware”? What does “beware” mean?
Scott Wolter: Great question. Now, I think most people will automatically assume that it’s something bad, right? But being an athlete—I just played two hours of basketball—another way I could interpret that is, “Hey, beware, be careful. Just pay attention, right? Like the guy’s coming to set a pick or whatever.”
I think the automatic assumption that it’s something bad—we just need to be careful. It may not be bad. It may just be something to watch out for. Just be on the lookout. Like heads up.
Aubrey Marcus: Heads up. Exactly.
Scott Wolter: I don’t know what that means, but like you said, it’s coming in a few weeks. It’ll be here in less than two months, a month and a half.
I’ve thought long and hard about this. People said, “Well, what do you think that means? What do you think is going to happen?” Well, the answer is I don’t know. But if I had to guess, my personal guess is it has something to do with disclosure.
That’s the only thing I can really think of. And if that’s it—beware—like, you know, it’s not negative. It’s like, “Okay, we’re here. We’ve always been here. You are part of us.” I mean, that’s the way I want it to go. But I don’t know. I guess we’ll find out soon, huh?
Aubrey Marcus: That would make sense from a prophecy standpoint if they are kind of orchestrating things from, you know, the either extradimensional or higher intelligence of evolution that’s created extraterrestrials with higher intelligence. And they had a plan and the plan—if they’re part of the plan, then they can say, “All right, this is our plan.” 6/6/26—we’ve made an agreement with whatever galactic federation exists, etc. Just one hypothesis, but it makes sense to me that you could be very precise with a prophecy like that because actually it’s a group that’s been planning this for a long time and they’ve made their calculations and they’ve figured things out and they’re going to do something on 6/6/26.
Scott Wolter: Well, that works for me. That to me seems like it’s very plausible.
I know some people have said, “Well, maybe it’s the apocalypse. Something really bad is going to happen.” I don’t believe that. I don’t believe it at all. Why would he say that in 2999 at 6 p.m. if there wasn’t something to come back to?
Exactly. So this is some kind of fork in the road—like the serpent. This is a fork in the road at 6/6/26 at 6 p.m. There’s some bifurcation of the path that’s going to happen there.
Okay. Let’s just do a little gematria for fun.
What’s 6 + 6? 12. +6 = 18. +6 = 24. +2 = 26. +6? Wait—damn it. Son of a— what happened? I was doing so good. I got cocky. You were going way too fast. I was on fire. I was on fire. I took it. I got cocky.
Loosen up that belt a little bit there.
Okay. Now divide by two. 13. Boom.
Coincidence?
Yeah. Well, I guess we got to buckle up for what’s going to happen on 6/6/26 at 6 p.m.
Holy shit. I mean, what time zone, though? That’s what we need to know.
Aubrey Marcus: Okay. All right. That is a great question and that question has been brought up, and in my mind it’s Jerusalem. That would make sense.
If something happens in Jerusalem, when it gets to be 6:00 p.m. where we are, it’ll be the next day there. So but that’s in our time zone. So that’s a great question. I don’t know.
All right. I’m gonna finish off. Are you ready?
Scott Wolter: I’m ready. No, I’m not going to finish off. I’m going to read the next part and then I want to hear what you have to say.
Also, be not fooled by the false prophet—spelled P-R-O-F-I-T.
Decoded Message (Final Warning):
Be not fooled by the false prophet and his clone who will rise on the third day after his death.
First thing that came to my mind was Donald Trump. That’s just me.
Prophet, right? As in money.
Who will—but the clone—now the word “clone”—people have questioned and said, “Well, did they have that word back in Jesus’s time?” And actually they did. The word was actually “clone.” It was pronounced “clone.” The Greeks used it and it was spelled K-L-O-N but it was pronounced “clone.” Basically for grafting plants to create new species. Or a copy.
So it’s spelled the modern way, but the word “clone” was around in 1897. So that’s not a problem. But thoughts?
Aubrey Marcus: Well, I mean because it’s spelled “profit,” I mean it certainly seems like money—this kind of harmonic mindset that has taken hold of our world in which everything is reduced to a physical material value. It could be a person or it could be an ideology that has infected many different people.
One hypothesis would be that there’s going to actually be some kind of hybrid human that will appear and actually not be the emissary of the father of God, but there will be some actual physical representation of it—or be aware of this idea that is in the form of this kind of harmonic reductionist “profit over all things, money as our god” kind of symbol.
So I think for me that’s kind of what I’m holding in my own mind as I’m figuring this out—is this another hybrid being that comes or is this an ideology that is already here? So yeah, that’s kind of what I’m holding. In other words, a metaphor.
Scott Wolter: Exactly. Yeah.
I’m sorry to put you on the spot, brother, but I’m just very curious to get your feedback. And I know that as you digest this message, you’re going to have some other thoughts too.
So now we’re going to finish.
Decoded Message (Closing):
Know this. In the beginning was the word, and that word was God. There was none before him. There was none after him. The word is eternal.
That’s it.
Aubrey Marcus: Wow. Well, that’s a lot, isn’t it? That’s a lot. That’s bringing us into a whole different paradigm of understanding the Yeshua story, of understanding our place in that story, of understanding what’s to come. And it’s pretty—absolutely wild.
I mean, the bottom line is whoever wrote this, they went to great pains to protect it and preserve it. If this was just the longest standing practical joke of all time, it’s just a way they way overdid it. You know what I mean? Like it doesn’t make any sense.
Scott Wolter: Yeah. You fooled me.
I have to say something. When I was not playing—I lost a couple and then I won a couple, but while I was there—some people have heard about the research and there’s a lot of guys that are interested in this subject, and I told them I was going to be doing your podcast today. So I know they’re going to be watching it. You’re going to get a few new people watching, probably following after that.
They asked me about you and about the first time we got together and I said—I teased them. I didn’t read the message. He goes, “Oh, you did that to him.” I said, “Well, yeah, but that was, you know, he was cool with that.” But I said, “I’m going to be back and today’s the day.”
He said, “Well, what did people say?” And I remember when we did this the last time and I forget who it was but he asked a really good question. The question was: “I know you can’t tell us the message, Scott, but did you have thoughts about who the biblical Jesus was beforehand, and now that you know the message, what do you think of him now?”
It was a really good question. I told this person at the club today about that question and he said, “Well, what did you say?”
I said, “Well, when I grew up, my dad was a Freemason. I didn’t know it. He never told me. He wasn’t quite ready to, but I never went to church. I was never indoctrinated into that theology. And so when I saw people that were back in, you know, when I grew up in the 70s, we called them Jesus freaks—people that were over the top with their faith, at least I thought were over the top. And then I would think about when Jesus came back and saw some of these people, what would he think? And so it just sort of gave me a negative impression of him—totally unfairly. But that was just my experience.”
I told your person that asked the question, I said, “But now after reading this scroll, I want to meet this guy. I would love to have a beer with him and talk more. I have a very positive impression of him.”
Like I told you before, before we released what I just read to you, I was nervous. I was worried that people would consider it blasphemy or whatever, but in fact the opposite has happened. I get the impression that even though you haven’t had a chance to digest this yet, I got to believe your initial impression is positive. Am I right?
Aubrey Marcus: Absolutely. You know, I think for me, I’ve always had a very positive impression of Yeshua and the teachings that came through as he embodied the Christ. I’ve always told the story that he was just like any of us, but he maxed out his potential. That’s what being the Christ means—it means that you max out your spiritual potential. His journey can be told as any one of us, if we can max out our potential, this is what it could look like.
There are a lot of the different texts and different things that he says that kind of imply that—“that which I do you will do, you will do more and greater”—these kind of encouraging messages to people to reach for what is possible within all of you, and the power of God is within you.
That was the feeling that I had, and I kind of discarded those other ideas that he came in out of some immaculate conception and was already fully baked as an enlightened being from the start. But there are a lot of stories that kind of imply that.
But now what this does—it opens up the possibility, well maybe he was just different from the beginning. And maybe actually this was some kind of hybrid insemination project that went on with his mother Mary. And there was this kind of immaculate conception—some type of star-being IVF scenario where he was inseminated and then he came out as a fully awakened enlightened being that was a representative of God.
Either way it’s an awesome story, you know. It’s opened my mind to the possibility that it could be what my original thesis was and what this thesis B is, but in either case I think his wisdom—although it’s subject to interpretations, etc.—of course it still stands. It still stands, undoubtedly.
Now there are just two possible working hypotheses. One that is more in alignment with the kind of mainstream theology with a spin—the spin is that he came in fully baked because he was actually created to be different. And then also the resurrection. So many pieces actually make sense in this new narrative.
It’s a lot. This is a pillar of Western culture. This is something that’s going to take me a little while to digest. I’ve intentionally not gone and researched where you’ve released this before because I wanted to have the first impression be from you.
Yeah. So this is my first time kind of absorbing this and it’s a lot to think about for sure. But ultimately beautiful either way. Either way it’s beautiful.
Scott Wolter: The way I think about it, in a pragmatic way—in the last 10 years or so, what have we been hearing about? Disclosure, right? And the whole notion I think we’ve been being prepared for extraterrestrials and the fact that we’re not alone in the universe and there’s a whole lot more going on than any of us ever dreamed.
I think in addition to that—not just preparing for the idea of extraterrestrials, but I think now we’re talking about arguably the most famous person that ever lived, right? Who has impacted so many people’s lives. Now he’s being taken to another level, if you will, that I think we have been prepared for as well. Because by being prepared for the whole idea of extraterrestrials—oh, by the way, he was one of them or a hybrid.
Maybe the next step is for us to understand what you said earlier—that we are also hybrids or we might be hybrids. And that’s a pretty heavy thing to hear, but I think we’ve been getting prepared for it. I think this is—I don’t think any of this is coincidence.
I find the timing of our finding this to be—in the middle of this madness that the world is going through right now—I think things are starting to come out that are going to help us put it all back together in a good way. That’s the way I’m looking at this and that’s why I’m getting more confident. I’m getting more excited about sharing the message.
People can interpret it however they want and people are going to interpret it differently, but I see it as positive—totally positive. That’s the reception that we’ve been getting. I’m really happy that that’s what it is. I hope it’s the start of a bigger thing for everybody—for the world to start. Let’s get this cleared out and let’s take a closer look at what he was saying and she was saying, because they were teaching this—not just him. They were. So the goddess is important too, and she’s mentioned here—Asher, called Wisdom.
Wow.
Now there’s a thread that I want to try and weave into this story that I can’t exactly place it, but there was in one of our communications—whether that was just us talking—you kind of talked to my group, the round table, and also we did a podcast, but you mentioned the angel K.
Where does the angel K fit in this story? How do we weave that thread into the story?
Scott Wolter: I’m glad you brought that up.
So the angel K—there is another message actually it is on this page except it’s on the other side but it’s encrypted, and basically what it says amongst other things: the angel K says “take the Yeshua scrolls, pick one, burn the rest. I do so. I’ll go with the Essenes to the north.”
This is the last of three different messages that mentions the angel K.
When he first is introduced—this was about six years ago—basically what happens is the message starts off and it says, “I saw the lights again. The right one descended upon my winter lodge. And there stood the likeness of a man—not a man, a man. It’s definitely an ET. About his eyes shone a light blue. He spake unto me in the language of the people. And I said to him, ‘Can ye hear me?’ He replied, ‘Yes.’”
They were speaking telepathically and he switched languages.
Then he says the angel K—and I don’t say this part of the message because I don’t want people going up there—but he leads. He says Talico—the guy that wrote this invisible message is the guy that did the final update of all the records. His cover name was Clifus Lucinius Jarbo, and a lot of the documents he uses a sigma with those three letters. His indigenous name was Talico—which is, uh, Chaka? I think it’s Chaka. I might be wrong on that, but anyway he was married to an indigenous woman.
He says the angel K says “I have need of thee again.” And then he sends him on this mission to go recover a scroll. That scroll was called the Book of the Wars of the Lord.
When he recovers it, he gives it to the angel K who says to him, “The scroll of the wars of the Lord—the Lord’s wars—is no longer amongst the world of men.”
That encrypted message is dated 1898. That’s only a year after this scroll was encrypted.
It begs the question: why did the angel K, who’s obviously an extraterrestrial, take the scroll?
This scroll was hidden at the temple of the goddess sometime before the 10th century. It’s biblical in nature because the Book of the Wars of the Lord is mentioned in Numbers. But if you Google it today, it says there is no extant copy known to exist. Well, we have it now. But in 1898, they took it.
The question is why did the ETs—why did K take it? There are two reasons I think, and this is the interpretation of all the people that I work with—and I work with people that are a lot smarter than me and people that are not afraid to say “Scott, you’re full of shit. This is what it means”—just like in “increasing storms.” I thought it was weather. It wasn’t.
So what’s in the scroll are two things: One is obviously extraterrestrials. The other is a dual-gendered god religion.
Which begs the question: in 1898, was the world ready for a dual-gendered god religion? Nope. Were they ready for extraterrestrials in 1898? No.
I think that’s why the angel K came and took the document.
But now here in the last five years we have come into our possession through the Templar tradition two parts, and in both parts we have both of these aspects, which begs the question: now is the world ready for extraterrestrials and a dual-gendered god religion?
My answer to that is: ready or not, people, here it comes.
Aubrey Marcus: Amen.
Scott Wolter: So that’s K. He’s mentioned in a couple of other messages, and the only interpretation that I have—and the people that I trust—he’s an otherworldly entity.
Aubrey Marcus: Yeah. Kind of an interlocutor, some kind of emissary that’s managing this situation.
You said you have fragments of the Book of the Wars of the Lord.
Scott Wolter: Yep.
Aubrey Marcus: What does that say? Found it.
Scott Wolter: Yes. Well, okay. So now that you’ve asked me that—and we just haven’t had time to go through and connect all the threads—but there is one of the researchers that we work with who told me that the part that I’m going to read to you in the Bible, there is a story of the sons of Dan traveling to Nod and that there’s a conflict that’s brewing, but then it stops, but then it picks up later and there’s a part that’s missing. And she said, “This is that part that’s missing.” In other words, that part was taken out.
Okay. All right. So now remember I told you about Bill Jackson and you know he bought this scroll in 1971 and he spent a lot of time trying to understand it and Don was part of that.
Now in 1994 Bill Jackson—who was a medical doctor—realized that he was dying of arterial sclerosis and Parkinson’s disease. So he made the decision to sell the document to the Vatican.
When I heard this I went, “Bill, you were doing so well, right?”
Well, he pulled out the most important parts and disseminated them. And the stuff that he did sell, he took photographs of. And that’s one section of the Book of the Wars of the Lord. So if you want, I’ll read it.
Aubrey Marcus: Please.
Scott Wolter: And the Canaanite king, his armies, and his cities were delivered to the Israelites at Hormma.
Then did the Lord say unto Moses, “Say unto the sons of Dan, depart 20,000 with Wahab and Jamali.” And I—if I butcher these words, I apologize. I’m doing the best I can. Jamali, son of Aiser, son of Ashai, and return to the river by the sea of reeds on the border of Edom.
There will the sons of Dan stand with sword and lance before and shield and bow behind. Yet let no man of Dan put foot or toe upon the waters of the river, but stand upon the bank and stamp their feet and beat upon their shields. Let none of the sons of Dan set foot upon the land of Edom.
And Jamali will prophecy in the name of wisdom.
So did Moses instruct Wahhab and Jamali son of Aheiser as the Lord commanded and they departed.
When some distance away off the remnant of the armies of Edom—some 40,000 with 2,000 chariots—that had denied the Israelites entry into Edom saw the host of Dan approaching and prepared for battle.
The leader of the Edomites called out to Wahib, “You come upon us in stealth when we denied you entry unto our country, but try to do battle now. However, we will destroy you.”
Then Jamali unto the Edomites: “The goddess Wisdom has commanded us, and we have obeyed, but we set not foot into Edom.”
Then a cloud descended from heaven and set above the armies of the Edomites, and a mist surrounded them. The voice of Wisdom cried out from the cloud: “These are the people of the Lord, and I am their goddess. You will depart this place or be destroyed, for I do battle this day for the sons of Dan.”
The leader of the Edomites sent forth his chariots into the shallows of the river.
Then did a silver beast descend from the cloud in the likeness of a great bird, and spat bolts of lightning from its wings into the water. And the horses of the chariots died, and the men of the chariots shook as with a palsy, fell to the waters, and drowned.
Then a great flame emitted from the mouth of the beast, and the host of the Edomites were consumed. To the last blade of grass were they consumed, and the earth scorched black.
Then cried Wahib, “Why? You could have done this when we asked entry into Edom, but they refused us passage.”
Then Jamali prophesies such: “This is what my Lord commanded and I defy not his command, says Wisdom. Yet this place is mine. My Lord gives it to me. I have sanctified it with fire and burnt offerings. In times to come, the king of Edom shall remember this place and this day, and shall enter into a covenant with Israel, to build a great fort here. And a thousand ships will sail into all the water of the earth, and return with riches more than the grains of sand upon the desert.
Return now unto the pages wrecked there or who was drawn from the waters where Israel awaits upon the banks of the Anan by the ridges of Ar on the borders of Moab.”
So did Jamali, Wahib, and the men of Dan lay down their weapons, put out their fires, take up their tents, their livestock, and their women, and departed as Wisdom commanded.
So it was written in the Book of the Wars of the Lord.
Aubrey Marcus: A silver beast descended from the clouds with wings like a bird. Klingons?
Scott Wolter: A Klingon, it said a Klingon. Yeah, it certainly sounds like it.
And Wisdom—that one’s—yeah, Wisdom is the feminine, the consort of the Lord. There’s that dual-gendered god religion. That’s my interpretation.
Aubrey Marcus: Totally. Totally. And the rest is certainly above my pay grade. I would want to get somebody who really understood the history and what this all means—who the sons of Dan were, what was going on.
It just—what overall, overarching—this is just like we’ve been fed fragments of a story and we’ve tried to make meaning out of these fragments, but there’s a true story that’s underneath this that hasn’t been perfectly crafted to meet the ends and desires of whoever crafted the messages.
But it seems like this disclosure may not just be the disclosure of the extraterrestrial, extradimensional beings that exist, but maybe a disclosure of the real history of how this all went down so we can make sense of how we got here.
Scott Wolter: Well, and the other thing that to me is self-evident here is this whole idea of extraterrestrials—they didn’t just show up recently. They’ve always been here. Certainly going back 2,000 years, which this is. And this is the other interpretation I think I can make from this: that by her burning everything and sanctifying the ground, it says they will build a great fort here. Could this be what happened before, you know, the first temple was built?
Could this be where it was built and why it was built here, right? Why was the temple of Jerusalem built where it was? Maybe this is the story that was taken out of the Bible or out of the Gnostic teachings, and this is the real story of why.
It’s easy to see. There’s no question in my mind the reason that no extant copy has been around for a long time is the church—the church doesn’t want any of this. I mean, you know, I don’t know how you can’t interpret that.
This is very likely we’re talking about extraterrestrials and we’re talking about a goddess on an equal plane with my Lord. They don’t want that. So like I said before—ready or not, here it comes. And in my mind, it’s long overdue.
Aubrey Marcus: Yeah. Well, we certainly—it feels like we’re in the 11th hour of something needing to radically shift, and all of the different tools that have gotten us to this point are not going to be the tools and the assistance that we need to get us to the next point.
It seems like we could use a little pattern interrupt in our world, and all prayers and blessings that that is something that’s needed and positive. But I mean—shit. Like, I don’t know what to say.
You took the words out of my mouth when I read that the first time. I went, “Holy fuck.” But no pun intended, of course. Yeah.
Let’s face it, right now we are going through a realization that the world we thought we knew is not the world we thought we knew. I’m not just talking about extraterrestrials. I’m talking about the things that are coming out in the Epstein files and—as a Freemason—I’m getting a lot of messages from people that are saying, “Is this the kind of rituals that you guys do? Are you part of this?” And I’m like, “No, no.”
In fact, last night I had a past Grandmaster stay with us. He’s at meetings today, but when he comes down to the cities he stays with us. We talked about this very thing. What does this mean for Freemasonry? How do we help educate people that don’t understand?
They hear the word “rituals” and then they hear that we do rituals. Are these the same rituals that these—you know, no, it’s not. Not at all.
It’s a challenging time in a lot of ways, in many ways. Part of the reason I had a little trepidation when this came out was because I’m also a Freemason, Knight Templar, and a lot of people don’t understand what we’re all about, and part of it is our own fault. I think that our tradition needs to do a better job of educating the public.
But I remind people—you know, we call America the greatest country in the world. I think personally we need to start acting like it a little more. Nowadays I don’t like what I see, but I believe that the system that we have in place, regardless of what happens to the individuals, is a good system.
I might remind people that our founding fathers were pretty much all Freemasons. So we were the ones that—it was our brethren that put this system into place that we now call the United States of America. It’s a pretty good system in my opinion. We just need to do a better job of putting the right individuals in place on both sides of the aisle. I’m not picking on one side more than the other. There’s plenty of blame to go around. But the system itself I think will survive whatever’s going to happen in the next coming months or couple of years, whatever.
Freemasonry is all through our constitution, all through all of it.
Aubrey Marcus: Yeah. I think people immediately conflate anything that’s a secret society, anything that’s a ritual, with the bad iterations of this. That doesn’t even make any sense. Of course there’s a balance. Of course there are people who have the right intentions and the wrong intentions. The fact that they have organizational structures that actually help proliferate and hold their wisdom and actually bring people into coherence—of course.
But I think what we’ve seen is we’ve seen the bad cults, not the good cults—you know, because they’re all over Netflix. We’ve seen the bad iterations of these satanic rituals, etc. But there’s plenty of other ones that just we haven’t heard about.
As a practitioner of different psychedelic medicine and the great traditions of our world, we’re doing rituals all the time that have nothing to do with anything bad—just purely love and beauty and awe and wonder for the miraculous mystery that is life and the awakening of your inner self.
It’s exactly—I mean the rituals that I’ve been involved in with Freemasonry, Scottish Rite, York Rite traditions that are non-Masonic, Rosicrucian—it’s about enlightenment, it’s about learning, practical things, spiritual things, but at the end of the day it’s about opening up you and becoming your higher self.
People fear things that they don’t understand. That’s why I’m very transparent. If people want to ask me about Freemasonry, I get emails every day and I tell them, “How can I learn more?” I said, “Just go on the Grand Lodge website and fill out a petition and do it.” But it’s not for everybody, and people have to decide for themselves. But don’t fear what you don’t understand. If you don’t know about something, learn about it. Read, enlighten yourself, and all it’s going to do is make you a better person, and I think in the end you’re going to have a better life.
Aubrey Marcus: Indeed. Indeed.
Well, this was a meaty meatball sandwich of information that you provided here, Scott. I’m glad we got to take the time to patiently go through it all, and I’m going to certainly be thinking about this a lot.
Where does your quest go from here? This is a once-in-a-lifetime discovery of sorts. What’s on your radar? Where are you going from this point?
Scott Wolter: I know exactly what’s—I mean, I’ve been invited to speak because a lot of people want to hear about this, but what I’m doing now is I’m putting the finishing touches on a book that has grown into two books about the Cremona document. And of course, at the end—because I think I don’t know if there’s any more people in Don’s agency that are left—so this might be it.
I’m just going to make myself available. I want the world to see this. If people want to see it, they’re free to interpret it themselves. I feel I have a right to say what I think. It doesn’t mean I’m right. I don’t want people to look at me as like I’m some prophet or anything—spelled with a “ph.” I’m not. I’m just a scientist. I’m a guy that works hard and tries to solve problems and figure things out. That’s what I do. And I’m going to continue to do that.
But I am going to enlighten people. I’m going to encourage people that want to know about the message. I’ll share it with them and I’ll give them my feedback. But at the end of the day, they have to decide what it means for themselves.
So I’m finishing the book, and when that’s out, people will have the whole story. They’ll have all the documents. They’ll have Angel K. They’ll have everything, and then they can do with it what they will.
But at the end of the day, it’s powerful stuff. It’s meaningful stuff. I think it’ll be a vehicle. It’ll be a vessel. It’ll be a tool to look inward and better yourself and hopefully better all of this whole experience.
We’re on the edge of a new cycle. I think we’re going through a storm right now, but when that storm ends, the sun comes out and good times—I think good times are coming. But we have some work to do.
Aubrey Marcus: Amen. That’s undoubtedly true. Undoubtedly true.
Well, thank you for the work that you’ve done. This is an incredible piece to this puzzle that we’re—you know, and again people can take it for what they will. And the same with my interpretations. Like I don’t know. I’m just making guesses on things that make sense to me. But I’m excited to hear what everybody else thinks about this as well, because there’s a lot of this that’s shrouded in mystery and interpretation. And perhaps we’ll get to some clarity about the veracity of these documents and what they’re pointing to, but maybe we won’t and maybe this will just be a mystery to ponder.
But either way, the fact that you’ve uncovered this and shared it is a great service. So thank you, Scott, and thank you, Janet, for your work and for sharing this.
Scott Wolter: She’s been here the whole time. She’s certainly not afraid to call me out if I need it—“that makes no sense.” But I also want to say, Aubrey, I want to thank you for giving me this opportunity twice. I really not only do I appreciate it, but I appreciate you for the person that you are.
I feel comfortable. I feel safe. You’re the—I couldn’t wait to come on today and share this with you. I apologize for keeping you in the dark the first time, but I think it was supposed to happen this way. I commend you for being patient and not, you know, “All right, what did he say?”
I got to give it to you, man. That took some real strength and patience. I got to build up some positive rapport with you because when we hit the basketball court, Scott, it’s going to be a constant nightmare that you’re in.
So after that, you know, I just wanted to build some good vibes.
Scott Wolter: Well, you know what happens, right? When you’re on this side of the line on the court, I don’t care who you are. You’re on the other side.
Aubrey Marcus: I know. We’ll go and I’ll worry about being your friend when we’re on the other side. So I agree. That’s the only way to play it. You go, man. It’s all love.
Scott Wolter: Well, all love. So much gratitude to both of you. Thank you so much. We’ll keep this conversation going.
Aubrey Marcus: Yeah. Anytime. Absolutely. Thank you.
Scott Wolter: All right. Thank you. Thank you everybody.
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