Savak, the ancient ant people

Jeff Mara introduces his guest, Sonja Grace, an award-winning author and spiritual teacher. The conversation focuses on spirit traveling and mysteries of ancient sites around the world.

Spirit Traveling

Sonja Grace explains that spirit traveling has been a part of her work for 43 years as a healer and meditation teacher. She enters a deep meditative state where her body dissolves, allowing her soul body to travel, guided by angelic beings. She emphasizes that this is not astral projection but a more profound experience that involves traveling through time.

First Experience with Spirit Traveling

Sonja recounts her first experience with spirit traveling, which occurred around 25 years ago during a meditation at a cabin in the Wallowa Mountains. After entering a deep meditation, her body dissolved, and her guides took her to the center of the universe, where she encountered beings called the Savak, the ancient ant people. These beings showed her a space of intense bliss before guiding her back to her body after several hours had passed.

Role of the Savak

Sonja discusses the Savak, the ancient ant beings she encountered, explaining their long-standing role in protecting humanity by building underground tunnels. These beings have existed since the beginning of time and have saved humanity during numerous Earth changes.

Ancient Sites and Pyramid Construction

Sonja describes her insights into the construction of the pyramids. She states that the pyramids were not built by humans but by a race of giants called the Moo, who constructed them along the Tropic of Cancer.

These pyramids served as protective structures over transport systems that existed before the pyramids themselves. She compares this with other ancient sites, such as the Temple of Kulon, where secondary pyramids were built over earlier structures.

Lemuria and Atlantis

In her spirit travels, Sonja has witnessed the beginnings of Lemuria, an ancient civilization much older than Atlantis. She explains that the landmasses of Europe, Greenland, and North America were once connected, and people migrated across these lands. Lemuria eventually gave way to Atlantis, which Sonja believes existed around 250,000 BC between Africa and Europe. She describes Atlantis as a tropical landmass that eventually sank, with its remnants carried to Antarctica by ocean currents.

Historical Misinformation

Sonja asserts that much of recorded history is based on the beliefs of rulers and religious leaders, omitting crucial details. She offers the example of Saint Winifred, whose story was altered to support the church, concealing the truth about her forbidden love with a pagan man.

Human Origins and Karma

Sonja believes humans were brought to Earth around 2 million years ago from a planet with a neutral mathematical equation. This transition to Earth, a planet governed by duality, is part of the human evolutionary journey, where we learn about karma and balance. She emphasizes that understanding karma—unresolved emotional wounds from past lives—is essential for spiritual growth.

Guides and Lifetimes

Sonja explains that her guides are high angelic beings who have been with her throughout her lifetimes, guiding her through karmic lessons and spiritual work. She believes everyone has hundreds of past lives, with each incarnation offering opportunities to resolve karma and evolve spiritually.

Ancient Sites and Duality

Sonja reflects on her visit to Hagar Qim in Malta, where she learned from the temple’s high priestesses about the balance between good and bad in human life. The temple had chambers dedicated to each, symbolizing the importance of maintaining balance in duality.

Earth’s Role in Human Evolution

Sonja emphasizes the importance of humanity’s relationship with Earth, describing the planet as a living being that supports human life. She believes humanity’s actions influence the planet, and maintaining balance is crucial for both Earth and human evolution.

Extraterrestrials and Spirit Travel

Sonja shares her encounters with extraterrestrial beings during her spirit travels. She believes that many aliens, especially at this phase of humanity, have their own agendas, some seeking to influence or control humans. However, she also mentions benevolent beings, such as the Pleiadians, who assist humanity discreetly.

Final Thoughts on Reincarnation and Purpose

Sonja concludes by discussing the importance of reincarnation and resolving karma. She emphasizes that the purpose of life is to learn to love deeply and to bring divine love into physical form. She encourages people to understand their karmic patterns to better navigate their current lives.