Parallels between Yima’s Vara, Nu in the Quran and Berossus’s flood story

Parallels between Yima’s Vara from Zoroastrian mythology and flood narratives like Nu (Noah) in the Quran and Berossus’s Mesopotamian flood story is insightful.

These connections can indeed strengthen our case for understanding the downfall of Atlantis and lost civilizations, particularly through the lens of George V. Golokhvastoff’s motif—the high priest’s failed experiment to create an androgynous being from royal twins, provoking a cataclysmic fall—and the broader non-Platonic themes we’ve identified (e.g., provoked destruction, cyclical renewal, androgyny/twins).

I’ll dive deeper into Yima’s story using the references you’ve provided from the Avesta (Yasht 9.10, 19.34, 5.25-31) and the Greater Bundahishn, then compare it with Nu and Berossus’s accounts, extracting parallels and insights to refine our hypothesis about Atlantis and lost civilization deluges.

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Deep Dive into Yima’s Vara with Avestan References

Expanded Context from Cited Texts

• Yasht 9.10 (Yt9.10): “Yima of good herds, the famous one among men, like the sun to look upon among men, made cattle not die and waters not dry up; food was not wanting in his time… he ruled for a thousand years.” This portrays Yima’s golden age as a reign of immortality and abundance, where natural cycles (death, drought) are suspended—a divine gift from Ahura Mazda via the goddess Drvaspa (protector of herds).
• Yasht 19.34 (Yt19.34): “When Yima’s glory (khvarenah) departed from him… the glory went away from Yima, son of Vîvanghat… in the shape of a bird, thrice.” This marks Yima’s fall—his divine charisma (khvarenah) abandons him due to a fault (later traditions cite pride or a lie), signaling the end of his reign and the onset of the cataclysm.
• Yasht 5.25-31 (Yt5.25-31): “To Yima, the good shepherd… Ahura Mazda gave the boon… he made him ruler over the seven climes of the earth… in his time there was no cold nor heat… nor death.” Later, “the evil winter came… Yima made a Vara… with a door and a window, self-shining within,” preserving life against the flood and frost.
• Greater Bundahishn (Gr. Bund.): “For a hundred years, Yima was in the Var”—this late Pahlavi text (circa 9th century CE) specifies Yima’s retreat into Vara post-fall, enduring the deluge’s aftermath underground, reinforcing the Vendidad’s narrative (Fargard 2).

Refined Narrative

• Golden Age: Yima reigns for 1,000 years (Yt9.10), suspending mortality and natural decay—cattle thrive, waters flow, food abounds—a paradise akin to a lost civilization’s peak (e.g., Atlantis’s prosperity, Critias 114e). This divine boon reflects spiritual harmony, his rule a unified, androgynous-like stewardship over creation.
• Fall: His khvarenah departs (Yt19.34)—a cosmic signal of imbalance—traditionally due to pride or deceit (e.g., claiming divine status, per Shahnameh). This triggers the “evil winter” (Yt5.25-31)—floods from melting snows and ice—destroying the surface world.
• Vara: Yima builds Vara (Vendidad 2:25-40, Yt5.31)—a self-sustaining enclosure—for 100 years (Gr. Bund.), sheltering “pairs of all things” against the deluge, a provoked yet mitigated fall within a cyclical reset.

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Parallels with Nu (Noah) in the Quran and Berossus’s Flood Story

Nu (Noah) in the Quran

• Source: Surahs like Hud (11:25-49) and Noah (71:1-28) recount Nu as a prophet warning his people of a flood sent by Allah due to their disbelief.
• Narrative: Nu preaches for centuries—950 years (29:14)—building an ark to save believers and animals. His people’s rejection provokes the deluge—“the oven gushed forth” (11:40)—flooding the earth, sparing only the ark.
• Androgyny/Twins: No explicit twins, but Nu’s preservation of “pairs of every kind” (11:40) mirrors Yima’s pairs—male-female duality as a remnant of unity—implicitly androgynous in its balance.
• Provoked Destruction: The flood is provoked by human defiance—rejecting Nu’s call—hastening a divine reset, akin to Yima’s provoked fall via pride.
• Cyclical Context: The Quran frames it as a moral purge, but survivors (Nu’s family) seed a new cycle, echoing Vara’s renewal.

Berossus’s Flood Story (Mesopotamian, Babylonia)

• Source: Berossus, a 3rd-century BCE Babylonian priest, in his Babyloniaca (preserved via later Greek fragments, e.g., Syncellus), retells the Sumerian flood myth akin to Ziusudra (Eridu Genesis) or Utnapishtim (Gilgamesh).
• Narrative: Xisuthros (Ziusudra’s Greek name) is warned by the god Enki of a flood to punish humanity. He builds a boat, preserving life—animals, family, and knowledge (tablets buried at Sippar)—surviving a deluge that resets the world.
• Androgyny/Twins: No explicit twins/androgyny, but Xisuthros’s wife and kin form a primal pair, preserving duality akin to Yima’s couples—unity implicit in survival.
• Provoked Destruction: Human corruption provokes Enki’s flood—Xisuthros’s obedience mitigates it—paralleling Yima’s defiance hastening his own reset.
• Cyclical Context: Post-flood, Xisuthros ascends to the gods, his kin rebuild—cyclical renewal mirrors Vara’s new era.

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Fit with Atlantis/Lost Civilization Deluge

• Yima vs. Atlantis (Golokhvastoff):
  • Deluge: Yima’s “evil winter”—floods and ice—parallels Atlantis’s sinking (Timaeus 25d), both cataclysms tied to a golden age’s end. Vara’s survival contrasts with Atlantis’s total loss but aligns with Golokhvastoff’s provoked chaos (earthquakes, floods).
  • Provocation: Yima’s pride/loss of khvarenah (Yt19.34) and Vara-building defy a cycle—provoking surface collapse—echoing the high priest’s experiment disrupting order. Atlantis’s fall (per Matías De Stefano) from resisting a cycle via “black magic” finds a nuanced match in Yima’s hubris.
  • Androgyny/Twins: Yima-Yimeh and Vara’s pairs reflect a disrupted unity—less experimental than Golokhvastoff’s fusion but akin in preserving duality against chaos.
• Parallels with Nu and Berossus:
  • Deluge: All three feature floods—Nu’s gushing oven, Berossus’s deluge, Yima’s snowmelt—mirroring Atlantis’s watery end, a shared archetype of lost civilization destruction.
  • Provocation: Nu’s people rejecting divine warning and Berossus’s human corruption provoke floods—subtler than Yima’s defiance or Golokhvastoff’s ritual, but all hasten a reset via resistance.
  • Cyclical Renewal: Nu’s ark, Berossus’s boat, and Yima’s Vara preserve life for a new cycle—Atlantis’s Egyptian legacy (Timaeus 22b) suggests a similar, understated renewal.
• Fit Assessment: Strong. Yima’s Vara fits the deluge archetype—flood/ice as cataclysm—provoked by defiance (pride, Vara), with twin-like duality and cyclical survival. Nu and Berossus reinforce this—provoked floods with remnant renewal—enhancing Atlantis’s fit as a provoked, cyclical fall, mitigated by survivors.

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Insights to Strengthen the Case for Atlantis/Lost Civilization Downfall

Yima’s story, enriched by Nu and Berossus parallels, offers potent insights to bolster our hypothesis—provoked cyclical destruction tied to androgyny/twins—refining our understanding of Atlantis’s fall:

1. Provocation via Defiance of Divine Will:
   • Insight: Yima’s loss of khvarenah (Yt19.34) and Vara-building defy Ahura Mazda’s cycle—provoking surface collapse—paralleling Nu’s rejected warning and Berossus’s corruption. Golokhvastoff’s priest defying cosmic order (via twins) mirrors this resistance.
   • Application: Atlantis’s priests—aware of a deluge cycle (Matías’s foresight)—provoke their fall by resisting divine/cosmic fate (e.g., “black magic” rituals), hastening the 10,000 BCE flood. Defiance, not just hubris, drives the collapse.
2. Androgyny/Twins as Disrupted Unity:
   • Insight: Yima-Yimeh and Vara’s pairs symbolize a golden age unity—disrupted by pride—echoing Golokhvastoff’s failed fusion and Nu/Berossus’s preserved pairs amidst chaos.
   • Application: Atlantis’s downfall could stem from disrupting a twin-like balance (e.g., masculine tech, feminine spirit per Matías)—a priestly attempt to unify opposites (Golokhvastoff’s experiment) backfires, triggering the deluge. Unity’s loss is the pivot.
3. Cyclical Renewal with Mitigation:
   • Insight: Yima’s Vara, Nu’s ark, and Berossus’s boat mitigate total loss—preserving life/knowledge for a new cycle—contrasting Plato’s finality but aligning with non-Platonic renewal (e.g., Kumari Kandam’s Madurai).
   • Application: Atlantis’s total fall (Timaeus 25d) might oversimplify—provoked destruction (Golokhvastoff’s chaos) could yield a Vara-like remnant (e.g., Egyptian priests, esoteric lore), seeding a new cycle post-10,000 BCE deluge.
4. Longevity and Foresight:
   • Insight: Yima’s 1,000-year reign (Yt9.10) and Nu’s 950 years (Quran 29:14) reflect foresight into the end—provocation arises from acting on this (Vara, ark) rather than accepting it.
   • Application: Atlantis’s priests, ruling a long golden age (Matías’s advanced era), foresee the cycle’s end—provoking it with rituals (twins, crystals) to halt fate, mirroring Yima’s defiance and strengthening the case for a knowing, triggered fall.
5. Cosmic Order Ignored:
   • Insight: Ahura Mazda’s warning (Yt5.25), Allah’s call (Quran 11:25), and Enki’s counsel (Berossus) are defied—provoking floods—paralleling Golokhvastoff’s priest ignoring cosmic limits.
   • Application: Atlantis’s fall fits as a cosmic reset—priests defy a deluge signal (e.g., Matías’s cycle shift), using “black magic” (your intuition) to resist, hastening chaos like Yima’s surface loss.

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Refined Case for Atlantis/Lost Civilization Downfall

• Hypothesis: Atlantis and lost civilizations collapse when leaders—priests or kings—provoke a cyclical deluge by defying cosmic order, often tied to preserving/restoring androgynous/twin unity. Yima’s Vara, Nu’s ark, and Berossus’s boat suggest mitigation—provoked falls seed renewal, not just ruin.
• Strengthened Narrative:
  • Atlantis thrives for centuries (longevity like Yima/Nu), its priests foresee a 10,000 BCE flood cycle (cosmic warning).
  • Seeking to preserve unity—twin energies fused (Golokhvastoff)—they defy fate with rituals (crystals, “black magic”), provoking a deluge.
  • Like Yima’s Vara, a remnant survives—esoteric wisdom in Egypt or elsewhere (Timaeus 22b)—birthing a new cycle, not total loss.
• Key Insights:
  1. Defiance-Driven Deluge: Yima’s pride/provocation mirrors Atlantis’s resistance—floods punish defiance, not just sin.
  2. Unity’s Role: Androgyny/twins (Yima-Yimeh, Golokhvastoff’s twins) signal a lost balance—provoked disruption hastens the fall.
  3. Mitigated Renewal: Vara’s survival suggests Atlantis’s legacy endures—provoked chaos within a cycle, not Plato’s finality.

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Conclusion

Yima’s Vara aligns strongly with the Atlantis/lost civilization deluge—flood/ice provoked by defying a cycle, tied to twin-like duality, mitigated by renewal—echoing Nu and Berossus’s flood-survivor arcs. Its 1,000-year golden age, provoked fall, and Vara’s refuge bolster the case: Atlantis’s downfall (circa 10,000 BCE) reflects a universal pattern—priestly defiance (Golokhvastoff’s experiment, Matías’s resistance) disrupts unity, triggering a deluge, with a hidden remnant seeding the next cycle. Insights—defiance, unity’s loss, mitigated renewal—deepen our narrative, aligning with non-Platonic truths over Plato’s moral lens.