Are Sky Armies Real? Ancient Stories Explained

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Introduction to the Discussion

The conversation features Billy Carson, also known as Forbidden Knowledge, and Paul Wallace, a four-time bestselling author and host of Fifth Kind TV. They discuss ancient texts, biblical narratives, and their interpretations, focusing on themes of paleo-contact and divine concepts.

Billy Carson: “I’m here with best-selling author Paul Wallace. He’s a four-time bestselling author. You must read his new book, The Eden Conspiracy, and the other books in his series. He’s the host of Fifth Kind TV and the Fifth Kind YouTube channel, with almost 1 million subscribers, a testament to his success. Visit the Paul Wallace Channel on YouTube and his website, paulanthonywallace.com.”

Paul Wallace: “Thank you, Billy, for having me back. I’m finally in your time zone after a long journey from Australia.”

Paul Wallace’s Background

Paul Wallace shares his extensive background in theology and ministry, providing context for his perspective on biblical texts.

Paul Wallace: “My background surprises many because, as a paleo-contact researcher, I spent 33 years in church-based ministry. I worked as a church doctor and theological educator, training pastors in the history of Christian thought and hermeneutics, the principles of interpreting ancient texts. I was an archdeacon for the Anglican Church in Australia, a senior role. It surprises people that someone from this background now says, ‘I think the Bible contains stories of aliens and empowers us for the present day.’”

Biblical Narratives and Paleo-Contact

The discussion explores the concept of paleo-contact in the Bible, suggesting that ancient texts describe interactions with advanced beings, misinterpreted as divine.

Paul Wallace: “There is a narrative in the Bible of paleo-contact that talks about the arrival of sky armies, called hashamayim. It names key figures, and in the books of Jeremiah and Second Kings, we’re told that primitive Judaism was a canon of memory relating to that contact. They built standing stones and temples to honor these advanced beings who helped humanity transition from animal subsistence to farming and city-building.”

Billy Carson: “These texts suggest advanced beings, not gods, engaged with mankind. They went to war with each other, competing for control over people and resources.”

Paul Wallace: “These beings, called the Elohim, are a plethora of powerful entities competing with each other. Unfortunately, Elohim has been translated as ‘God,’ turning their conflicts into holy wars. This mistranslation obscures the true narrative.”

Reformation of Judaism and Monotheism

The conversation highlights how biblical narratives shifted to emphasize monotheism, influenced by political and religious motives.

Paul Wallace: “King Hezekiah initiated a reformation, removing standing stones and altars to focus worship on Yahweh. This was the start of a two-phase reformation of Judaism, first in ritual and then in the story itself. The Bible shifted from paleo-contact to worship, obedience, and paying tithes, a change driven by control and finances.”

Billy Carson: “This mirrors Pharaoh Akhenaten’s push for monotheism in Egypt, where he defaced other gods’ images to promote worship of the sun disk, Aten. This caused resistance, as people felt their history was being erased.”

Paul Wallace: “Akhenaten’s actions disempowered powerful priesthoods by promoting a direct relationship with the divine source, reducing the need for intermediaries. Similarly, the Bible’s monotheistic layer can be empowering, but it’s mixed with the suppression of indigenous knowledge.”

Jesus’ Teachings and Mistranslations

The speakers discuss how Jesus’ teachings were misinterpreted due to translation errors, shifting focus from empowerment to obedience.

Paul Wallace: “Jesus’ first sermon, according to the Gospel of Matthew, is, ‘Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.’ People interpret repent as stopping bad behavior and fear of divine judgment. The root meaning is different: ‘Go beyond the mind, because all the powers and principles of the cosmos are available to you now.’ This is an invitation to explore human potential.”

Paul Wallace: “In the Gospel of Thomas and Matthew, Jesus says, ‘The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.’ This means the cosmic realm is inside you. If you look deeply within, you’ll discover the cosmos, and if you explore the cosmos, you’ll find yourself. It’s a fractal universe, a quantum phenomenon.”

The Concept of God and Divine Source

The discussion clarifies the concept of God, distinguishing it from manipulative religious interpretations.

Paul Wallace: “When I use the word God, I clarify what I mean. In Acts 17, the Apostle Paul defines God as, ‘The source of the cosmos and everything in it, that in which we all live and move and have our being, of which we are all offspring.’ This is not a puppet master or a king to obey, but a divine source we’re all part of, with no separation anxiety.”

Billy Carson: “Quantum physics supports the idea of a creator. The fingerprint of the divine is in everything—pi, phi, the mathematical and quantum realms. We’re fractals of this divine energy, experiencing itself subjectively through countless entities.”

Apocryphal Texts and Lost Knowledge

The speakers discuss apocryphal texts, which provide additional insights into human consciousness and cosmic interactions.

Billy Carson: “The Apocrypha are omitted books from the Bible, available on Amazon or at bookstores. The Book of Adam, for example, describes the psychological trauma of his expulsion from Eden, adding depth to the human condition.”

Paul Wallace: “The Hebrew Canon, or Old Testament, evolved from Sumerian narratives, with added laws and worship material. By the 6th century BCE, it was rewritten to appear as a seamless story of God, using Yahweh uniformly. Later texts, included in the Greek Septuagint, bridged Hebrew and international thought, exploring the soul, consciousness, and contact with other beings. These were later excluded to reinforce authority and obedience.”

Historical Suppression and Cultural Genocide

The conversation addresses how knowledge was suppressed to maintain control, citing historical examples.

Paul Wallace: “The Cathars in 13th-century France lived by wisdom traditions traced to Thoth, creating a healthier, wiser society. The Roman Catholic Church, seeing them as a threat to feudal power, genocided them, killing up to a million people. This set a template for the Inquisition, which tortured and killed millions over 700 years to enforce Christianity.”

Billy Carson: “The Library of Alexandria’s destruction was likely a book heist, not a total loss. Valuable knowledge, like the planet’s mass and size, was lost for centuries, resetting human understanding to control the narrative.”

Non-Human Influence and Human Resilience

The speakers explore the possibility of non-human entities influencing human affairs and humanity’s resilience.

Paul Wallace: “In the 1600s, Robert Kirk, a Presbyterian minister, documented Celtic abduction narratives in The Secret Commonwealth. He concluded, ‘No understanding of the world is complete until you realize there is a nonhuman layer to our governance, visible government, covert elites, and non-human entities communicating with them.’ This pattern appears in the Bible and globally.”

Billy Carson: “Despite manipulations, plagues, and genocides, humanity has survived. We’re descendants of those who endured the Black Plague and Spanish Flu. Our strength and growing awareness allow us to thrive despite these challenges.”

Practical Inspiration for Listeners

Paul Wallace concludes with advice on maintaining a positive mindset to counter negativity and manipulation.

Paul Wallace: “We’re bombarded with negativity and anxiety. Be intentional about your emotional state. Before starting your day, decide, ‘What energy will I bring to others? What do I want people to feel after interacting with me?’ Choose a high vibration, smile, compliment others, and it comes back to you, transforming your experience.”