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Matias de Stefano on Rome during the conclave

Before dawn in Rome, during a conclave, Matías de Stefano walks the city as a map of collective mind. At the northern gate he says the roads of Europe once entered here, and he counts Egyptian obelisks in the squares. The pyramid of Cestius, steep like examples in Sudan rather than the broad Egyptian form, is for him an alchemical picture of divinity. On a nearby hill a nobleman, around 1800, made an alchemical park and built the magic door, since moved, opposite a basilica door where he says Francis lies. The Pantheon, glossed as all the gods, is another image of the stone that bridges mind and heart. The Vatican hill was a burial ground, he says, where Simon Peter was killed and buried, and long teaching made Peter’s heir the only bridge from heaven to earth. While the conclave keeps the doors shut, that bridge can receive a new intention. Custom became rite and then law, and that Roman layout, Latin included, is the pattern he says Europe still follows.

Key points

  • De Stefano treats Rome as a designed map of mind, entered where the old roads of Europe met.
  • The pyramid of Cestius is read as an alchemical form, closer to Sudanese profile than to Giza.
  • A hillside estate and its magic door are tied to a hunt for the stone that changes lead into gold.
  • The Pantheon is another image of that stone and of a bridge between mind and heart.
  • Peter’s burial hill and the papacy are, for him, two thousand years of one heaven to earth bridge.
  • A locked conclave is the moment he thinks that bridge, and the Roman habit of law, can be retuned.

Short quotes

The alchemist's pyramid because it is not a pyramid like those in Egypt, but rather a long pyramid like those in Sudan.

Matías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave
Photo of Matias de StefanoMatías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave

He contrasts Cestius’s steep pyramid with Egyptian ones and likens it to Sudan. Watch at 1:52

He was obsessed with the philosopher stone and was searching for how to construct the philosopher stone, perform alchemy and turn lead into gold.

Matías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave
Photo of Matias de StefanoMatías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave

A nobleman on that hill is described as hunting the stone that turns lead to gold. Watch at 6:41

Here, Cestius built his pyramid more than 2,000 years ago.

Matías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave
Photo of Matias de StefanoMatías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave

He dates the pyramid of Cestius to more than two millennia ago. Watch at 9:58

2,000 years of repeating that the only one who is the rainbow bridge between heaven and earth is the heir of Peter, right?

Matías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave
Photo of Matias de StefanoMatías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave

He says the papacy has long been cast as the sole bridge from heaven to earth. Watch at 24:02

That's why when they are locked, it means that it is a moment where this bridge can be reprogrammed.

Matías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave
Photo of Matias de StefanoMatías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave

A closed conclave, in his view, is when that bridge can be set to a new aim. Watch at 31:26

Therefore all the design that was made here inside is the design that we still manage today.

Matías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave
Photo of Matias de StefanoMatías de Stefano, Matias de Stefano in Rome at the conclave

He claims the plan worked out in Rome is the plan societies still follow. Watch at 36:21

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