Matias de Stefano on purpose, the Nile, and the Netherlands

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In a Univibes conversation, Matías de Stefano treats remembering who we are as the point of this time. A purpose exists only after people decide what they are putting ahead of themselves, so humanity has none until it makes one. Fear of new tools is fear of a hammer, and the deeper limit is fear of an unbounded self. He describes an Atlantean colony on the Nile, run in circles of women, where children passed through hard yearly ordeals. Suffering can be a habit of mind even when nothing is attacking you. Old governments were useful once and are now, he says, like a winter coat in summer. Egypt matters because every person is said to carry a memory of crossing the Nile while following the stars. Atlanteans had already laid a planetary net of pyramids, machines that work only when lined up with certain stars, and they named the Nile as the next system to switch on. The Netherlands, he claims, is Atlantis reversed: land raised above the water rather than a city lost under it.

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He says there is no purpose for humanity until people create one by choosing what to put ahead.
Fear of technology is compared with fear of a hammer, and the deeper fear is of an unbounded self.
He claims a life in a women’s circle in a Nile colony, with harsh training meant to wake inner power.
Suffering can be a fixed belief, and leaving a bad place is his example of seeing another option.
The Nile is said to encode the first star following journey that made humanity.
Pyramids, in his account, are one planetary machine timed to stars, with Egypt as the backup to Atlantis.
He calls the Netherlands the opposite of Atlantis because the country is raised above the water.