Dogon myth (West African, Mali): The first eight ancestors of humanity are nurtured underground in a placental chamber by twin serpentine spirits (Nommo), emerging via a bamboo stalk after being produced by the marriage of Heaven and Earth, symbolizing birth from the earth's womb.
Dogon Nommo: Amphibious twins split—human imbalance hastens chaos (~10,000 BCE).
Non-Platonic Sources: These myths emphasize a civilization’s spiritual attunement—e.g., the Dogon’s Nommo-guided cosmic order, Sangoma’s ancestral unity, Quechua’s Children of the Sun, Mapuche’s balance with Trentren Vilu, Liu Bowen’s sage-like harmony, and Taoist Huainanzi’s Daoist equilibrium.
Non-Platonic Sources: Many feature celestial or otherworldly origins—e.g., Dogon’s Nommo from Sirius, Sangoma’s Chitauri star-beings (Mutwa), Quechua’s star-aligned Inti Churin, Liu Bowen’s “mirrors of the sky,” and even Khlebnikov’s abstract time-transcendence hinting at cosmic cycles.
Non-Platonic Sources: Collapse is often a natural or cosmic reset, not a terminal end—e.g., Mapuche’s Trentren Vilu raising mountains for survivors, Quechua’s Unu Pachakuti as renewal, Taoist Huainanzi’s Daoist cycles, Liu Bowen’s survivors seeding wisdom, Dogon’s Nommo departure as transition, and Sangoma’s spiritual continuity.
Non-Platonic Sources: Collapse often lacks a moral cause—e.g., Mapuche’s Caicai Vilu flood as nature’s fury, Quechua’s Unu Pachakuti as cosmic shift, Dogon’s Nommo exit as transition, Taoist imbalance as natural flux, Liu Bowen’s elemental disruption, and Sangoma’s ancestral withdrawal.
Technologies: No explicit tech beyond ritual objects (e.g., bones, herbs) and a cosmic awareness of star cycles, possibly inherited from this era’s star-beings (e.g., Nommo-like figures).
Nommo: The Chitauri’s malevolence contrasts with the Dogon’s benevolent Nommo, yet both tie lost civilizations to stars (Sirius for Dogon, unspecified for Mutwa).
Cosmic Connection: Some Sangoma visions, per Mutwa and others, reference extraterrestrial or celestial origins (e.g., beings from “beyond the stars”), paralleling the Dogon’s Nommo.
Symbolism: Water (Nommo-like), stars (cosmic origins), and bones (ancestral voices) encode a lost world’s story—richer than Plato’s linear narrative, yet opaque to outsiders.
It’s associated with the Nommo—amphibious, fish-like beings from the Sirius star system—who are both creators and cultural progenitors.
Social Structure: The Nommo are central figures—described as “Masters of the Water” and “Monitors”—suggesting a theocratic or tutelary leadership.
Cultural Identity: This civilization embodies a cosmic origin story—humanity’s infancy under Nommo guidance.
Oral traditions claim this was taught by the Nommo, suggesting a lost civilization with advanced astronomical tools—perhaps observational (e.g., aligned structures) or intuitive (e.g., shamanic visions).
Practical Innovations: Tales mention water-based technologies—reservoirs created by the Nommo upon arrival—implying irrigation or hydraulic mastery suited to a semi-arid region.
Spiritual Technologies: The Nommo’s “life principles” given to humans hint at a metaphysical science—energy manipulation or soul cultivation—passed through rituals like the Sigui festival (every 60 years, tied to Sirius).
The Nommo’s aquatic nature and arrival “with fire and thunder” suggest a distant, submerged origin, not necessarily local to Mali.
Cosmic Dimension: The Sirius connection shifts the “location” to a stellar plane—Pō Tolo as the Nommo’s home.
Cataclysmic Shift: The oral lore doesn’t detail a single catastrophic event like Plato’s sinking but implies a transition—perhaps a flood or cosmic shift—when the Nommo departed or submerged their influence.
Spiritual Legacy: The Nommo’s crucifixion and promised return (in human form) frame their exit as a sacrifice, not a collapse—leaving humanity with fragments of their wisdom.
The Dogon’s animism—venerating ancestors, Nommo, and nature—resists monotheistic overlays, aligning with your criteria.
The Nommo’s stellar origin and precise astronomical details suggest a visionary tap into universal records, akin to shamanic insight.
Cosmic Connection: The Sigui’s 60-year cycle (approximating Sirius B’s 50-year orbit) and Nommo myths position the Dogon as inheritors of a star-born legacy.
Symbolism: The Nommo’s fish-like form, twin births (androgyny vs.
The Nommo could mythologize such a past, not Atlantis per se.
Consciousness: The Sirius link and Nommo’s teachings suggest a collective memory of cosmic origins—Akashic-like—preserved in ritual, not scripture.
The Dogon oral traditions depict a lost civilization of cosmic origin—spiritually advanced under Nommo guidance, adept in astronomy and water mastery, lost to a subtle shift, not a crash.
Nature of the Civilization: The Dogon speak of a “first land” tied to their Nommo (amphibious, star-born beings).
The Nommo allegedly gifted this wisdom, suggesting extraterrestrial influence.
Fate: Submerged by a flood linked to cosmic events (e.g., Sirius’s cycles), with the Nommo retreating to the stars.
The Dogon people credit their knowledge of astronomy, including information about the Sirius star system, to amphibious beings called the Nommos.
As part of the creation process, Amma created the Nommos, amphibious beings who were sent to bring order and knowledge to the universe.
The Nommos are Amma's messengers and intermediaries between the divine and the earthly.
The disruption caused by Yurugu required Amma to send the Nommos to restore order and harmony to the universe.
The Nommos legend, central to the Dogon cosmology, is a complex oral tradition describing the Nommos as amphibious beings who descended from the sky and played a crucial role in creation, civilization, and the transmission of knowledge to humanity.
The Nommos are described as beings from another world, often linked to the Sirius star system.
According to the Dogon, the Nommos came to Earth in a "vessel" that descended with great noise and wind, often interpreted as a craft or ark.
Their arrival is associated with water, and the Dogon say that the Nommos needed water to survive, reinforcing their amphibious nature.
The Nommos are depicted as part-human and part-fish or amphibian, with features resembling aquatic creatures.
The Dogon believe that the Nommos were sent by a supreme creator god called Amma to restore order to the universe.
The Nommos descended to correct this imbalance and create harmony in the cosmos.
Spiritual Practices: The Nommos introduced rituals, ceremonies, and symbols used by the Dogon to this day.
The Nommos are said to originate from Sirius, specifically from a star that the Dogon identify as Sirius B.
According to the legend, one of the Nommos sacrificed themselves to nourish humanity and restore balance to the Earth.
The sacrificed Nommos was later resurrected and ascended to the heavens.
The Nommos traveled in an ark or vessel that brought them to Earth.
The Dogon associate the Nommos' ark with cosmic and spiritual symbols, linking it to the sacred alignment of the Sirius star system.
The Nommos are revered as divine intermediaries between humans and the creator god Amma.
The Dogon link Sirius, particularly Sirius B, with water and fertility, reflecting the amphibious nature of the Nommos beings they revere.
The Nommos are mythological beings described in the oral traditions and cosmology of the Dogon people of Mali, West Africa.
The Nommos are described as being part-human, part-fish or amphibian.
The Nommos are said to have descended from the sky and brought knowledge to the Dogon people.
The Nommos are credited with teaching the Dogon agriculture, weaving, and other skills and sharing knowledge about astronomy and the universe.
According to Dogon lore, the Nommos originated from the Sirius star system.
The Nommos are central to Dogon religious beliefs and rituals.
Some Dogon ceremonies and masks represent the Nommos and their mythic actions.
Esoteric Theories: Others, particularly in the UFO and ancient astronaut communities, interpret the Nommos as extraterrestrial beings who visited Earth in the distant past.
Nommos: In the cosmology of the Dogon people of Mali [coordinates n="14.3940" e="-3.4840" z="6"], the Nommos are amphibious, part-human, part-fish beings associated with water and creation.
The Nommos are also linked to the Sirius star system and play a central role in Dogon mythology.
The ancient Mayans thought their predecessorscame from the Pleiades, while the Incas said simply that they were the “sons of the sun.” Chinese texts tellof long-lived rulers from the heavens who sailed through the skies in “fire-breathing dragons.” The Dogontribe in Mali, West Africa, tells of space travelers called Nommos, who came to Earth thousands of yearsago from the Sirius star system and gave them detailed information about their world and our solarsystem.
The ancient Mayans thought their predecessorscame from the Pleiades, while the Incas said simply that they were the “sons of the sun.” Chinese texts tellof long-lived rulers from the heavens who sailed through the skies in “fire-breathing dragons.” The Dogontribe in Mali, West Africa, tells of space travelers called Nommos, who came to Earth thousands of yearsago from the Sirius star system and gave them detailed information about their world and our solarsystem.
Optional resonance (not proof of the discs): The Nommos legend and The Sirians for Sirius motifs beside Sungods lore; Tibet: the wise teachers of Atlantis… for Tibet/Bayan Har adjacency.