A fish (whale) as the warning of the gods (Manu)?
Survivor Narratives: Central figures in both myths are survivors who carry forward the knowledge and culture of their destroyed civilizations, similar to cultural heroes like Noah, Utnapishtim, and Manu.
Ila is the child of Vaivasvata Manu and Shraddha.
Rig-Veda: Manu is warned by a fish about a deluge.
Role of the Future Manu: The future Manu is tasked with selecting suitable Lemurian types to form the new race.
Early Selection: The Manu conducts extensive tests over many years to find desirable ancestors.
Steady Evolution: Over about a million years, the Manu meticulously breeds the new race.
Incorporation of Advanced Egos: The Manu arranges for advanced egos from the Moon Chain to incarnate in the new race.
Manu's Role: Throughout, the Manu meticulously plans and guides the evolution of the fourth Root Race.
Originated from the improved Lemurian stock selected by the Manu.
The Manu and other advanced beings guided these processes to ensure the progressive evolution of humanity.
The Head of the Hierarchy began, almost immediately after His coming, to make arrangements for the founding of the fourth Root Race, employing the future Manu to pick out the smallest, densest and best of the Lemurian types available ; and while the founding and growth of civilisation under the King-Initiates were going forward among the Lemurians, the Manu of the coming Race was diligently seeking for the egos suitable for His purpose, and selecting for them appropriate incarnations.
Tribes were set apart, their members inter-marrying for long periods, and the Manu chose promising specimens and transplanted them;
The third-Race Manu had evolved a blue type for His sixth sub-race, and a bluish-white for His seventh, though the masses of the Lemurians remained black; some of the fourth sub-race also mixed in with the blue, and slowly, very slowly, the general Lemurian type improved.
It is noticeable also that when, in other parts of the world a lighter-coloured or better type appeared it was sent off to the Manu, and He tried to find for it a suitable husband or wife ; we observed one that was thus sent in from the Madagascan city, and others similarly came in from elsewhere.
More rapid progress was made after the arrival of the Initiates, mentioned at the close of the last chapter, the best of the bodies improved by their indwelling being taken by the Manu for the shaping of His first sub-race; the fourth Eace had thus, ultimately, a very fine founding and nursing, thanks to the large number of developed people who took the lead and pressed things forward.
The Manu was able, finally, to take the bodies of the seventh sub-race, improved by the Initiates using them, as the nucleus of His first sub-race, the Rmoahal, of the fourth Eoot Race.
We find the fourth Race Manu eliminating the blue from the colour of His people, passing through purple into the red of the Rmoahal sub-race, and then, by mixing in the blue-white of the seventh Lemurian sub-race, He obtained the first sub-race which seemed to be fully human, and that we could imagine as living among ourselves.
In the most literal sense the Manu of a Race is its Progenitor, for the whole Race has its Manu as its physical ancestor.
Even the Manu 's.
The Manu arranged with the Root-Manu to send Him large numbers of egos ready for incarnation — those from globe D of the Moon Chain who had complete causal bodies, and who had individualised in the lunar fourth arid fifth Eounds.
At this time arrived on Earth a ship-load of egos, in a group of whom — which kept much together — we are specially interested, as it contained many old friends, Sirius, Orion, Leo and others; some of these were ear-marked on their arrival by Vaivasvata Manu — the Manu of the fifth Eace — as part of His future materials.
Taking a bird's-eye-view, we notice that there were occasional gatherings of the whole big Clan, as in the City of the Golden Gates when Mars was King, in Peru when he was Emperor, in the mainland near the White Island under the Manu, and in the second and third subraces at their beginnings and their migrations — to take a few instances out of many.
One Million Years Ago: Lord Vaivasvata Manu began selecting individuals for the fifth Root Race.
600,000 Years Later: Manu picked additional suitable candidates, narrowing the selection process over time.
The tribe practiced a different religion, enabling Manu to isolate and develop them further.
Manu’s brother, who would later become Gautama Buddha, founded a new religion, further segregating this group.
Manu called his people to the coast for emigration to avoid subjugation by a dark ruler.
Some groups remained loyal to Manu, while others settled comfortably in Egypt, leading to conflict and eventual slaughter by Egyptians.
Manu led the remaining loyalists to the high plateau of Arabia.
Manu’s people settled in the fertile valleys of Arabia but faced dissatisfaction and harsh climates.
Manu’s community faced severe weather conditions, leading to significant hardships and population reduction.
Manu received orders to lead his people to the White Island, where the future race plan was unveiled.
Manu directed the settlement process, introducing controlled admixtures of foreign blood to refine the type.
Repeated invasions by Turanian tribes led to massacres, but the Race-type was preserved through selective reincarnations and guidance by Manu.
Manu’s descendants continued to lead and improve the community, ensuring the growth and refinement of the Race.
THE statement in The Secret Doctrine that the fifth Root Race began one million years ago appears, as already stated, to refer to the beginning of the choosing of materials by the Lord Vaivasvata, the Race Manu.
Their religion was different from that of the Toltecs living in the plains, and the Manu took advantage of this to isolate the sub-race.
The immediate cause of the emigration was the impending subdual of the white sub-race by the Dark Euler, and the wish of the Manu to withdraw His people from that influence.
The whole process of embarkation, debarcation, settling down to wait for their comrades, and preparing for the journey on foot, occupied some years, and the Manu, with some other great Officials, was then sent by the Head of the Hierarchy to lead them to the high plateau of Arabia, where they were to remain for a time.
Some succumbed to the temptation and remained in lower Egypt, in defiance of the Manu's command, to become, a little later, slaves to the dominant Toltecs.
The rest reached Arabia by way of the route which is now the Suez Canal, and were settled down by the Manu in groups, in the various valleys of the great Arabian highlands.
But the emigrants did not much like their new quarters, and while the majority of the people, who had been prepared by Vaivasvata Manu in Ruta, were even fanatically devoted to Him, the younger generation did a good deal of grumbling, for it was pioneer work, not a 'personally conducted Cook's tour'.
They proposed to kill all the people who were not wholly devoted to the Manu, and prepared to fight the deserters, who had settled down comfortably in Egypt.
Mars and Corona gallantly resisted the Egyptian onslaught, while a side party, with Herakles — a young unmarried man — among them, mistaking the direction of the enemy, was annihilated by the Egyptians ; Vaivasvata Manu came up with reinforcements and turned the fortunes of the day, driving back the Egyptians ; a side party of them, in turn, was attacked by a larger force, among which Sirius, the father of Herakles, was prominent, furious at finding his son among the dead ; knowing the country, they shepherded the Egyptians into a crater-like depression, with steep sides covered with loose rocks; these rocks they joyfully hurled down on their surrounded foes, and the last we saw of Sirius on this occasion was his ride down the steep slope on an avalanche of stones, waving his spear, and shouting a war-song of an uncomplimentary nature, to become part of the gory mass of crushed men and heavy stones which filled the lowest part of the crater.
From time to time emigrants left the main body, some settling in the south of Palestine and some in the south of Egypt ; and these movements were encouraged by the representatives of the Manu, for the plateau was limited in size and became crowded to an uncomfortable extent.
The number of His followers being small, they made a single caravan, and the Manu sent a mes-sage to the Kuler of the Sumiro-Akkad Empire, praying for peaceful passage through his dominions — including the present Turkey in Asia, Persia and the countries beyond; He reached the borders of that Empire without difficulty, and the Emperor proved friendly; his passport carried Him right into Turkestan, and then He had to treat with a Confederation of Turanian feudatory States, including what is now Tibet.
While these seismic changes were in progress, the Manu's community was left undisturbed by absolute cleavagfe or change of surface ; but the people were constantly terrified by the recurring earthquakes, and were almost paralysed by the fear that the sun (which had been rendered invisible for a year by masses of cloud, largely composed of fine dust) had gone out for ever.
The Manu proceeded to settle His people (about 70,000 B.
Mars, a grandson of the Manu, was the head of the community, and, with his wife Mercury and his family — among whom were Sirius and Alcyone — lived in a pleasant house, surrounded by a large garden and fine trees.
Jupiter was the ruler of the province — if we may so call the whole settlement of the embryonic Eace numbering about seven thousand souls — wielding an authority which was delegated to him by the Manu, the recognised King of the community, residing at Shamballa.
Much excitement was caused some years later by the Manu, who was then a very old man, sending for Jupiter, Corona, Mars and Vajra; on their return, obeying His order, they selected some children from the settlement, and sent them over to Shamballa ; these children were the best in the community and have since risen to the position of Masters.
A few women were sent with them to take care of them, and the children were brought up in Shamballa; in due course Saturn married Surya, and the Manu was reborn as their eldest son, to restart the Race on a higher level.
Soon after the removal of the aboveoamed children, the Turanians swept down on the community like a devastating flood, for this was the event of which the Manu had forewarned His lieutenants and from which the children were saved; the assailants were bravely beaten back several times, but horde succeeded horde.
A number of promising children were cut off, but, after all, it did not much matter, for they all went out of earth-life together, grandparents, parents and children, and were ready to come back when the'Manu founded His family.
Mars returned earlier, and was born in Shamballa as a younger brother of the Manu, while Viraj was His sister.
Thus the Race-type was ever preserved, even when the bulk of it was twice swept away, and on each occasion the Manu and His lieutenants incarnated in it as soon as possible and purified it still further, ever approaching the type at which He aimed.
30,000, a great leader from the East, Theodoros, a man of another race, who after the Aryan conquest of Persia and Mesopotamia, and the establishment of the rule of the Manu over those districts, was sent as Governor by Him, under Corona, His grandson, who succeeded Him as Ruler of Persia.
It will be obvious that when the Manu and His lieutenants — great Adepts from a far higher evolution — incarnated among the youthful Race which They were labouring to develop, They were to those people absolutely as Gods in knowledge and power, so far were They in advance of them in every conceivable respect.
So do flood figures who start humanity again, such as Manu.
Mars, a grandson of the Manu, was the head of the community, and, with his wife Mercury and his family — among whom were Sirius and Alcyone — lived in a pleasant house, surrounded by a large garden and fine trees.
In Hindu tradition, Vaivasvata Manu is the flood survivor who seeds a new age of humanity after the waters rise.
Who was Vaivasvata Manu?
I start with the Vedic and Puranic trail: his name, his role as Manu of the present age, and the fish that warns him to build a ship.
Manu is the archetypal progenitor and lawgiver of a manvantara.
A manvantara is a cosmic age ruled under one Manu.
The word Manu is linked to the root man-, “to think.” So Manu is not only a flood hero.
In common Hindu framing, Vaivasvata Manu is the solar-line Manu of the present age.
The earliest extended Vedic flood narrative for Manu sits in the Śatapatha Brāhmaṇa 1.8.1.
In this early account, a fish comes into Manu’s hands while he washes.
It tells Manu to prepare a ship.
Manu ties the ship to the fish’s horn and is carried to the northern mountain.
Manu alone remains.
When the flood rises, Manu ties the rope to the fish’s horn:
The flood then swept away all these creatures, and Manu alone remained here.
Manu is warned, builds a ship, is towed by the fish to a northern mountain, and alone survives the sweep of creatures.
It answers who Vaivasvata Manu is in the early Vedic flood trail: the solitary survivor who restarts humanity after the waters.
The boat often preserves Manu together with the Saptarishi (seven sages), seeds of plants, and pairs of creatures.
The early Vedic story is Manu alone with an unnamed fish and a northern mountain.
Manu and Noah share a pattern.
In Satapatha, Manu alone remains; later tellings add family, sages, and seed.
Manu’s warning comes from a fish (later Vishnu-Matsya).
Manu lands on a northern mountain (later Himalaya/Meru).
After the flood, Manu generates a new race through sacrifice and offspring; Noah’s covenant story runs through Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
On this site, The Fourth Root Race already places Vaivasvata Manu inside a clairvoyant / Besant–Leadbeater style narrative.
In that layer, he is Manu of the Fifth Root Race, selecting stock while Atlantis (the Fourth Root Race) still stands, then leading Fifth Race humanity out.
some of these were ear-marked on their arrival by Vaivasvata Manu — the Manu of the fifth Race — as part of His future materials.
Blavatsky’s The Secret Doctrine volume II pushes the same Manu figure further into her Root-Race scheme:
Now every Brahmin knows that it is only with Vaivasvata Manu that our Humanity began on this Earth (or Round).
Thus, since Vaivasvata Manu’s Humanity appeared on this Earth, there have already been four such axial disturbances; when the old continents — save the first one — were sucked in by the oceans…
What this means: in Theosophy, Vaivasvata Manu is the Fifth Race Manu who preserves humanity when Atlantis (Fourth Race) ends.
It explains why Manu belongs on drumsofatlantis.com.
First, Satapatha Brahmana gives me the earliest clear Manu flood narrative: unnamed fish, ship, northern mountain, Manu alone remaining.
Third, Theosophy reads Vaivasvata Manu as Fifth Race Manu after the Fourth Race / Atlantis flood.
Keeping Vedic text, Puranic expansion, and Theosophical Manu separate keeps the page honest for the who-question and strong for readers who arrive from search.
Who was Vaivasvata Manu?Vaivasvata Manu is the solar-line Manu of the present age in Hindu framing: son of Vivasvan (the Sun), flood progenitor, and lawgiver of a manvantara.
Theosophy reads him as Manu of the Fifth Root Race after Atlantis.
Is Manu Noah?No.
What did Matsya do?In later Puranic tradition, Matsya is Vishnu as a fish who warns Manu and guides the boat.
In Satapatha Brahmana, an unnamed fish saves Manu.
Is Manu linked to Atlantis?In Theosophy, yes: Vaivasvata Manu is Manu of the Fifth Race, linked to the end of the Fourth Race (Atlantis).
Where did the boat land?In Satapatha Brahmana, Manu is carried to the northern mountain; the slope is called “Alarm’s descent” (Manoravasarpana).
Genesis 7: Noah flood spine for the honest Manu–Noah parallel.
Ziusudra’s Flood: Mesopotamian flood survivor as a third witness beside Manu and Noah.
The Fourth Root Race: on-site Theosophical narrative naming Vaivasvata Manu as Manu of the Fifth Race led out from Atlantis.
Figures on the same shelf include Anu, Alalu (Earth / gold discoverer in Sitchin-style lists), Poseidon as an Anunnaki father in Matias’s map, and Noah / Manu as flood-survivor neighbors.
They started as a group called Chankshusha Manu, a subrace of the Lemurians, and eventually became the Atlanteans.
The first Atlantean subrace was the result of the last, or seventh Lemurian subrace, Chankshusha Manu, which migrated first to the south of the Atlantean continent and, from there, migrated further north.
On this site the Indo neighbor is Vaivasvata Manu: same motif family, different scripture.
Vaivasvata Manu is the Indo twin: warning, ship, seed of a new age.
As the Mesopotamia-to-Bible flood-survivor spine, soft-linked to Manu, Altai megaflood geology, creation-stories recreation, Dead Sea destruction geography, and the Nephilim antediluvian layer.
Vaivasvata Manu: Indo flood survivor / seed-of-life neighbor.