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Will John welcomes Matthew LaCroix back to The Way of Will John for a documentary around Lake Van. LaCroix treats submerged ruins off the northern shore as a central puzzle. With Robert Schoch he studied Nemrut, the caldera on the southwest rim, for a disaster timeline that might date the stones. He argues the lake was much lower until an eruption sealed the outflow, amid extreme heat, quakes, and waves near the end of the ice age. Inland, the sharpest basalt, the T shaped pillars, and the geometric marks are, he says, older than the Urartian walls and mud brick above them. A so called bastion covered in sacred signs, and empty of swords or shields, does not look like a plain fort. Later peoples, in his view, took that masonry, recut some of it, and claimed it. Similar marks in Bolivia and Cambodia point him to a symbolic teaching rather than a script. On shafts under the Great Pyramid, he wants unknown rooms at Giza explored, but he doubts tunnel models that ignore water in the limestone.
Key points
- LaCroix ties sunken ruins in Lake Van to the Nemrut eruption and to a shoreline that once stood far lower.
- He places that rise of the lake inside a late ice age pattern of heat, quakes, and waves, not ordinary rain.
- Precise basalt, T shaped pillars, and geometry around the lake are, for him, older than the Urartian layers on top.
- Sacred signs and a lack of weapons make him reject a purely military reading of one so called bastion.
- His working idea is that later builders inherited the stonework and the symbols, then claimed the credit.
- Shared motifs in Bolivia and Cambodia are, in this interview, traces of one older symbolic tradition.
- He accepts unexplored spaces under Giza, and he doubts tunnel models that ignore the wet limestone beneath.
Short quotes
Well, typical rainfall patterns aren't going to do that unless you have some kind of a major geologic event.
Matthew LaCroix, LaCroix interview on Lake Van
He says ordinary rain does not explain the damage, and he looks to a large geologic break. Watch at 11:09
Why would you ever put sacred geometry symbols on a military fortification?
Matthew LaCroix, LaCroix interview on Lake Van
He asks why sacred-geometry marks would be cut into a fort. Watch at 29:08
Is that why we then see so many temples and pyramids with so many similarities, the same stonework, the same concepts echoed?
Matthew LaCroix, LaCroix interview on Lake Van
He asks whether shared stonework and temple plans spread from one starting point. Watch at 55:05
It's much easier to adopt something older and incorporate it into your culture and pretend that you were the ones who built it.
Matthew LaCroix, LaCroix interview on Lake Van
He thinks a later people can take up older work and then claim the building as their own. Watch at 1:07:08
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