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Nicholas Ashbaugh interviews Matías de Stefano about remembering other lives. De Stefano says he did not understand why he was human and only accepted that fact at twenty-one, with a private low mood under a sociable, joking surface. He rejects a fairy-tale climb toward a final high mood. What should be outgrown, on his account, is not polarity but duality, the habit of making any two forces into enemies. A string makes music only when it is tensed, so hardship belongs in the song. Ashbaugh recalls his guest’s view that hell and heaven are projections of consciousness. Ego, for de Stefano, is the weight that lets a self stay in place. He places the coming age of Aquarius against a Piscean background and describes it as networks, tools, and personal freedom. Property lines are called marks people draw and then sell. Asked how a book can hold what he remembers, he says the records are waves, and that some beings store huge amounts simply by picturing them. The memories and the map are his.
Key points
- De Stefano says he did not accept being human until he was twenty-one.
- He treats humor and blunt friends as ways to stay on the ground.
- Duality, not polarity, is what he says people need to outgrow.
- Difficulty is compared with the tension that lets a string make music.
- He sets an Aquarian age of networks and personal freedom against a Piscean background.
- Borders are called invented lines, and remembered records are described as waves rather than pictures.
Short quotes
I didn't understand why I was a human.
Matías de Stefano, Remembering other lives with Matias de Stefano
He dates his trouble to not knowing why this life was a human one. Watch at 10:22
The concept of duality is when you think that two things need to be opposite or there's always something against me.
Matías de Stefano, Remembering other lives with Matias de Stefano
Duality, for him, is the habit of turning every pair into enemies. Watch at 19:34
It doesn't matter how far you go in the future, you will be always in the middle point.
Matías de Stefano, Remembering other lives with Matias de Stefano
Travel in time, he says, still leaves a person in the middle of the span. Watch at 21:45
It's completely opposite to the background that we have from Pisces.
Matías de Stefano, Remembering other lives with Matias de Stefano
The age he calls Aquarian is set against the age he calls Piscean. Watch at 43:49
We call it real estate, but it's actually like artificial lines that we create and then we carve it up and sell it.
Matías de Stefano, Remembering other lives with Matias de Stefano
Land ownership is described as lines people invent and then put up for sale. Watch at 58:46
It's spheres that are not in the shape of a sphere that are actually waves, so yeah.
Matías de Stefano, Remembering other lives with Matias de Stefano
Asked to picture stored knowledge, he says the records behave like waves. Watch at 1:07:42
Video by Nicholas Ashbaugh. Watch on YouTube.